exactly my point^^^^... whether its done by Republicans or Democrats, and whether its 400 votes or 400,000 votes, i still find this pretty troubling.

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But what about NAACP paying this dude with crack to make up false registrations. . . it goes on both sides.

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Originally posted by Busy Child i knew someone was gonna start making up excuses. HAHAHAHA.

no one's making any excuses for anything.

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Originally posted by Busy Child But what about NAACP paying this dude with crack to make up false registrations. . . it goes on both sides.

LOL nice... i actually wanna read this.

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Originally posted by Busy Child i knew someone was gonna start making up excuses. HAHAHAHA.

exactly..
4 more years, get over it..

apparently you failed to grasp this is supposed to be indicative of a larger trend, not an isolated incident.

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Originally posted by Vlad Bush won Ohio by 137,000 votes, those 4 thousand wouldnt help.

what bothers me is that the discrepancy between exit polling and eventual vote tally was automatically attributed to shitty exit polling. i do believe that it is most likely that the exit polling was flawed. at the same time, i think with the hindsight of how botched and partisan the actual vote counting was in 2000, the small possibility that some of the discrepancy arose through vote fraud definitely merits researching (especially keeping in mind how influential jeb bush and katherine harris were in the vote count).

if there were a paper trail, this idea could be looked into and subsequently dismissed with enough evidence to the contrary. but as it is, all we know is there is a discrepancy between exit polling and vote tally, not absolutely without a doubt which side of the equation was more skewed.

for related info and more the eloquenty argued point (in regards to florida in 2004), read this article (may have to watch 15 sec ad once and then have access for whole day):

http://salon.com/news/feature/2004/..._act/index.html

EDIT --- this is now on CNN, for all you CBS haters - Computers gave Bush 4300 votes in precinct of 650 people:::

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/11/05/voting.problems.ap/index.html

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unfortunately CNN is the Commie News Network...and fox news rivals comedy central in terms of laughs

MSNBC owns all!

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Originally posted by decibel08 apparently you failed to grasp this is supposed to be indicative of a larger trend, not an isolated incident. what bothers me is that the discrepancy between exit polling and eventual vote tally was automatically attributed to shitty exit polling. i do believe that it is most likely that the exit polling was flawed. at the same time, i think with the hindsight of how botched and partisan the actual vote counting was in 2000, the small possibility that some of the discrepancy arose through vote fraud definitely merits researching (especially keeping in mind how influential jeb bush and katherine harris were in the vote count). if there were a paper trail, this idea could be looked into and subsequently dismissed with enough evidence to the contrary. but as it is, all we know is there is a discrepancy between exit polling and vote tally, not absolutely without a doubt which side of the equation was more skewed. for related info and more the eloquenty argued point (in regards to florida in 2004), read this article (may have to watch 15 sec ad once and then have access for whole day): http://salon.com/news/feature/2004/..._act/index.html EDIT --- this is now on CNN, for all you CBS haters - Computers gave Bush 4300 votes in precinct of 650 people::: http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS...s.ap/index.html

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Originally posted by verndogs unfortunately CNN is the Commie News Network...and fox news rivals comedy central in terms of laughs

look close and you'll see the story is from the associated press. and i assume you're joking about cnn.

here's the same story in another place

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...voting_problems

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Originally posted by DJ Eco BLACKBOX VOTING, a non-profit coporation has released info stating that in Ohio, a town with no more than 700 registered voters, was reported to have given FOUR THOUSAND + votes to Bush. tthey suspect that the computers were easily hacked and set prior to election day to give that many votes to Bush. BLACK BOX VOTING company has reason to believe that this is just one in so many hundreds of incidents. since it is a non-profit organization, it needs to raise $50,000 to be able to do the research necessary in the computer voting machines, as well as for lawyers to bring it up to the government to be looked at..... read for urself.... www.blackboxvoting.org ....seems legit to me, which is kinda freaking me out. now we know the reason they didnt want print-outs so we culd see if the computer results were correct....

Sounds like bull shit too me. I am not a bush supporter by any means fyi

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS...s.ap/index.html

it's all here.

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Originally posted by pyro264jb Sounds like bull shit too me. I am not a bush supporter by any means fyi

it could be.... in all seriousness, i want it to be false. i wanna know that we did all we could to investigate the matter and i wanna know that our president was fairly chosen. its not a matter of being a "sore loser" and having to "suck it up". its a matter of me wanting democracy back. if Kerry won and all this suspicion was pointing toward Kerry, i would still want an investigation. telling me to "suck it up" (not referring to you, pyro, dont worry) is just saying "who cares if theres a huge amount of voter fraud in the system, as long as MY candidate won bc of it". what u shuld be saying is "lets investigate it so we CAN prove that its false."

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