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DaveSZ
When The Levee Breaks



Registered: Jan 2003
Location: ATX

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis86
I know...but shit always hits the fan at the worst possible moment...and even though I know that for a fact...I'm still never ready...



Two things about life:

Nobody gets it right.

Nobody gets out alive.

Jump in.


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Clovis
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Los Angeles

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Yeah dude, I didn't mean anything sarcastically, that is actually how I usually cope...

If you want someone to talk to or anything, you can aim me at nukerccn @ hotmail.com on MSN or NuclearRaccoon on AIM.



I know...but I need to make some real choices...I cant just get plastered and hope it goes away...although I would like to just forget about it all...for a little while...


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DaveSZ
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Ok maybe that's 3 things, but I ad-libbed a bit.


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quote:
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And like the dude says "Fuck It"


Aye, lets go bowling

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Clovis
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quote:
Originally posted by tribu
Aye, lets go bowling


For real I think I'll do that this weekend...

I need it.


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quote:
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For real I think I'll do that this weekend...

I need it.


Yup, bowling is as theraputic as it is fun.

No wonder they made a whole movie about it.

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Yup, bowling is as theraputic as it is fun.

No wonder they made a whole movie about it.


Kingpin?


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Being depressed is overrated. The thing is, to get rid of it, all you need to do is to identify and destroy the source.


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Clovis
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Being depressed is overrated. The thing is, to get rid of it, all you need to do is to identify and destroy the source.


I'm not so much depressed as I'm just in a tight spot and it sucks. And yeah life isnt so good...


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I'm not so much depressed as I'm just in a tight spot and it sucks. And yeah life isnt so good...


If it's just momentary "tight-spottance", I imagine it's just a matter of surviving until it's over... with something from the lovely family of anti-depressants. Or just good music.


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Clovis-

Whatever is going on with you it really can't be that bad. You are 18 and must be doing reasonably fine considering you have a connection to the internet, have photogaphy equipment, and plenty of free time. If you really want to see when someone has it bad, read the article. Now they really have it tough.


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Hope gone, farmers see suicide as way out

Reuters Makrajpet (Andhra Pradesh) Oct 22: Even when Putta Shankara was lucky enough to find back-breaking casual work as a farm labourer, his debt to the local moneylender rose four times more than his earnings.At a daily wage of Rs 30, it would have taken him almost 15 years without a day’s rest to pay back the Rs 150,000 he owed, let alone the ballooning interest.

Then the work, like Shankara’s own tiny, abandoned fields, slowly dried up and he lost all hope.

So, with monsoon clouds heavy over southern India, the 28-year-old drank some toddy, walked into his gloomy, dirt-floored room in Makrajpet village and hanged himself.

He left behind a dazed widow, Laxmi, their 6-month-old son and 6-year-old daughter.

“We could only cry, no words could say anything,” says his brother, Siddaih (38) looking around the room a few days later.

“He was very depressed. He was behaving strangely. It was the pressure of the money lenders and the burden of his debts.”

Across India, thousands of farmers broken by debt, drought and failed crops have killed themselves in recent years, mostly by hanging or drinking pesticide.

No one knows just how many.

Analysts estimate that more than 1,000 farmers have killed themselves since May alone, when a new Congress-led government came to power in New Delhi on a wave of resentment among rural and urban poor who felt left out of India’s economic boom.

“It’s a crisis. An epidemic,” says Mr K Nagaraj, an expert on farmer suicides and poverty at the Madras Institute of Development Studies.

“The tragic farmers’ suicides are ... an extreme symptom of a much deeper rural distress.”

Almost 700 million Indians rely on the land for a living, often a life of wretchedness, hunger and disease, condemned to dirt-floored huts of mud-brick, straw and cow dung, working tiny plots that cannot support a single family.

Makrajpet is an ugly, shambolic cluster of huts barely an hour’s drive from Hyderabad.

But just as Hyderabad is a showcase for India’s strong economic growth — among the world’s fastest at more than 8 per cent in 2003/04 — the state itself has come to represent for many Indians the growing rural despair.

Six years of drought have not helped. And this monsoon, again, the dark clouds promised but did not deliver.

But Shankara’s tragedy is not just due to bad luck.

Economic reform has changed the way poor and illiterate farmers work their land, encouraging them to borrow heavily to sink wells, buy new high-yielding seeds or plant cash crops.

Banks have now largely pulled out of farm lending; landlords, at least some of whom felt honor-bound to waive debts in the worst cases, have been replaced by new commercial lenders charging 25-35 percent interest a year.

Often these same lenders sell supplies and services to the farmers, only to buy goods and equipment back from defaulters at fire sale prices to recover their money.

“It’s what I would call a classic case of predatory commercialisation,” says Mr Nagaraj.

“The rural landscape is in a shambles. Agricultural credit and finance schemes have collapsed. Prices have pushed most inputs beyond the reach of the small farmer. For many, the move from food crops to cash crops proved fatal.”

While farmers in some areas have reportedly killed themselves over debts as small as Rs 8,000, most around Makrajpet owe between Rs 50,000 and Rs 200,000.

How do so many people, unable to get enough work to feed their families, dig themselves into such debt? Sheer desperation.

Most of India’s farmland is not irrigated. Millions of farmers rely on the capricious monsoon or wells sunk deep into the earth. But uncontrolled tapping of groundwater is making water ever harder to find, hitting small landowners hardest.


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I think he knows hes not in dire straits, hes just looking for a little support for a bit of stress hes under.

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