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thecYrus
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Registered: Oct 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by djdustx
wtf...

well thats ur opinion and i respect that...but I DISAGREE TOTALLY...like i was never sure of disagreeing with someone as much as i am with ur statement

Have u Tried Agonyx?...this synth is great...and i Love the Superwave Bundle..pfft...

dont underestimate synthedit

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what kind of monitors are you using? z3ta+ plays in a total other league than superwave. the sound of all those superwave-synths is somewhat of muddy.. and it sounds extremly digital. even worser than vanguard. z3ta is much betterin this direction. it has a clear and direct sound. but the effects on this synth are very cold...

but i guess you never heard a real JP before and even the JP doesn't play in the top-line of the hardware-synths..

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thecYrus
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sorry for triplepost..

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Derivative
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Dublin

quote:
superwave CAN be good but the fact that its made with synthedit holds it back in a big big way


synthedit doesnt hold it back one bit. 'bad worksman' and 'blames tools' springs to mind.

cyrus. if its muddy then its probably aliasing and sticking on the frequency over half your sample rate back onto the bottom of the waveform. or its bass heavy because its low passed and superwaved.to compensate, EQ out some of the sub. if there a problem with mudiness or sibilance 99% of the time it is fixable with EQ, compression or layering it with other timbres to shift the focus away from it.

the only thing that makes superwave synths not quite so good is the fact that superwave dont really support their products. they take ages to answer problem emails and when they did to me they just said 'thanks for taking an interest in our product.' not good. it doesnt help that superwave pro/trance pro still has bugs in it. they still havent fixed that annoying glitch where the LFO doesnt play correctly for the first few seconds of playing. you also cannot determine the waveform and at at what point of the waveform the LFO oscillates from (peak, lowest point or 0 point), it always starts at the lowest point. the lowpass filter is also not very sensitive the first quarter of the way up the slider and then waaay too sensitive after that meaning that filter sweeps arent really that smooth and sound a bit jittery. these are fixes that people have been asking for since about march of this year (probably before, i only got it in march and the complaints were already there). they still havent fixed these problems to my knowledge. zeta differs in the sense that renee actually supports his product (very well too) and zeta has alot of patches made by third, semi professional and professional parties. with superwave pro you are on your own and dont expect additional patches to show you the ins and outs of the instrument.

ultimately, since the multi timbrality of all softsynths is dependant on your CPU, the CPU load of the synth (+ the effects you put on it) and your willingness to slog through with a latency of 350 ms, you can achieve amazing things with any of these instruments as long as you know what you doing and you know the instrument like the back of your hand.

and yes, djdust, agonyx does indeed rule.

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rb2k1
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: NYC Metro Area Mood: chilled out

derivative have you created any synths using synthedit?

And for all asking about my ensemble im thinking of making it a donation program.. but until i figure out what im doing with the reaktor file feel free to grab my supersaw vst that ive offered for free (created with synthedit) get it here:

Supersaw VST v06



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alanzo
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Boston, MA

ugh.... *saying this with a jp8000 in front of him*


just buy one ya pirating bastard


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seantyas
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Registered: May 2003
Location: St. Gallen, Switzerland

blames tools? nah man, z3ta blows away superwave in terms of phatness, I will also prove that another way, change yer suprwave waveforms to saw, and all i here a thin ass tone.

put the jp8000 waveform to normal saw, and its quite thick, massive even.

also there is a bug that occurs when the buffer is cleared, not sure if its only on chords or single notes but occurs an all computers i have tested it on, where it phases the fist second of audio coming from it only afer buffer is cleared.

though this may not be such a big deal, problems like this hold it far back from being a 100% type synth and i reach for the z3ta instead of the superwave..

I dont know many bad worksmen that choose z3ta over simple interface superwave


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Project 7
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quote:
Originally posted by alanzo
ugh.... *saying this with a jp8000 in front of him*


just buy one ya pirating bastard


why dont you just stfu

I was asking for a Software version not the Hardware and how does that make me a pirater

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seantyas
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Registered: May 2003
Location: St. Gallen, Switzerland

it doesnt and i actualyl prefer software to hardware, of course providing it can make the cut.. im a firm believer in the potential laptop studio in upcoming years


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alanzo
The Equalizer Womanizer



Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Boston, MA

quote:
Originally posted by Airscape
why dont you just stfu

I was asking for a Software version not the Hardware and how does that make me a pirater


software = should buy.. but most likely won't

hardware = have to buy.. but most likely won't



let me know when find the holy grail


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D-res
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Registered: May 2004
Location: Milwaukee, WI

i just use the superwave p8 or my pro53... if you know how to use the pro53, you can get a beatiful sound out of it

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DickieThijssen
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Registered: Dec 2004
Location: North Pole

quote:
Originally posted by rb2k1
Hey you should try Reaktor its made by native instruments. I have made an ensemble for it that replicates the JP's supersaw pretty well. Since your username is Airscape i figured i would do the sosei melody as an example.

Download: http://rb2k1.com/vst/reaktor/airsca...ktor%20ens).mp3



As mentioned Z3ta does a nice job as well.

~Ross B

Can u plz give me that reaktor ensemble??? I am not able to recreate it, it's really nice

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alanzo
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Boston, MA

quote:
Originally posted by DickieThijssen
Can u plz give me that reaktor ensemble??? I am not able to recreate it, it's really nice


what's with u and supersaws, Ross? heheh


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