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Originally posted by Sand Leaper There's a difference from thinking he's shit and him not fitting into the Vandit Night setup. I believe you just claimed both.

what are you on about now?

He clearly doesnt fit in, id propose the only reason hes booked is to get a good crowd from holland going. Thats the reason tiesto plays LFA. PvD's choices of guests are all in the other room (Timo Maas, Moguai, Rene Vaitl .... )

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Originally posted by Laushinameee He clearly doesnt fit in

Why not? Just answer my question.

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Originally posted by Sand Leaper Why not? Just answer my question.

because he plays a totally different sound to 99% of any previous guest. Thats all there is to go on... and its plain to see.

look at the previous guests from 2000 - present


and look at him


he doesnt fit in.

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Originally posted by Laushinameee because he plays a totally different sound to 99% of any previous guest. Thats all there is to go on... and its plain to see.

Hm let's see, all of Paul's guests and most of the music Paul plays at a Vandit Night are of the progressive/trance spectrum. Granted, most of his are usually of the progressive kind, but that doesn't stop Paul from inviting people like Stefano Libelle, Nu NRG, Marc van Linden and Second Sun to his Vandit Nights. I fail to see why Ferry Corsten should fit any less in than those.

Also, Ferry is not all about dutch trance fluff. Looking at the Right Of Way tracklist proves that, as well as the recent gigs he has had in Germany.

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Originally posted by Sand Leaper Hm let's see, all of his guests and the music he plays at a Vandit Night is of the progressive/trance spectrum. Granted, most of his are usually of the progressive kind, but that doesn't stop him from inviting people like Stefano Libelle, Nu NRG, Marc van Linden and Second Sun to his Vandit Nights. I fail to see why Ferry Corsten should fit any less in than those.

we are talking about berlin, not gatecrasher in the UK that happen to have 'vandit' written on the flyer.



Second Sun & Nu NRG play live sets, about 30 minutes of the entire night...

such as when Nu NRG played he'd also have jerry bonham on as the guest DJ...

ferry corsten as a guest dj playing (probably) a 3 hour set, is not really in keeping with the history of the whole thing.

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Originally posted by Sand Leaper Also, Ferry is not all about dutch trance fluff. Looking at the Right Of Way tracklist proves that, as well as the recent gigs he has had in Germany.

yes hes trying to go towards a more 'electro trance' sound - something that PvD has been very critical of in the past..

in fact hes always been quite critical of ferry corsten

so i dont see how he fits into the guys own night.

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Originally posted by Laushinameee yes hes trying to go towards a more 'electro trance' sound - something that PvD has been very critical of in the past.. in fact hes always been quite critical of ferry corsten so i dont see how he fits into the guys own night.

but plays corsten tracks ?

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Originally posted by dj tek but plays corsten tracks ?

when was the last time PvD played an original corsten track?

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Originally posted by Laushinameee Second Sun & Nu NRG play live sets, about 30 minutes of the entire night... such as when Nu NRG played he'd also have jerry bonham on as the guest DJ... ferry corsten as a guest dj playing (probably) a 3 hour set, is not really in keeping with the history of the whole thing.

Jerry Bonham got invited while he used to be a trance DJ too, just look at his early mixcds. And regardless of how long they play, it's still the same kind of sound that you obviously claim doesn't fit Vandit Nights. Yet you still get to hear it there.

I think the only reason you get all worked up over this is cos you think Ferry is shit, pure and simple. Why should Paul get slated for trying out something new with his nights as long as the crowd likes it?

And no, I don't mean Ferry's electro pastiches productionwise, I'm talking about variety DJ wise. And if Paul hates Ferry's "electro" productions so much, why has he played It's Time and Punk several times?

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Originally posted by Sand Leaper Jerry Bonham got invited while he used to be a trance DJ too, just look at his early mixcds. And regardless of how long they play, it's still the same kind of sound that you obviously claim doesn't fit Vandit Nights. Yet you still get to hear them there. I think the only reason you get all worked up over this is cos you think Ferry is shit, pure and simple. Why should Paul get slated for trying out something new with his nights as long as the crowd likes it?

because hes not trying anyting new, i know exactly why hes booked ferry & its got nothing to do with his strenght as an artist or a dj.

second sun hardly play a set full of ferry corsten trance anyway...

and i think nu nrg are shit too, and if im honest i dont see how they fit into vandit nights or onto the vandit label.

& yes i do think ferry is shit

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Originally posted by Laushinameee when was the last time PvD played an original corsten track?

it doesnt matter if its original or remixed, because if the remix no longer represents the original sound, then it represents the remixer more than the original artst. ie. sweetest dreams[corsten], in the beginning again[corsten] as for original tracks,he played the shit out of punk. and a good dosage of indigo when it got mad old might i add

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