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2000+ died on one night somewhere in India, what would you think was the cause
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Terrorism 0 0%
War casualties 4 11.76%
Outbreak of bird flu 3 8.82%
Starvation 4 11.76%
Chemical Accident 8 23.53%
Fire 2 5.88%
Flood 13 38.24%
Total: 34 votes 100%
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butterfly
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: West CoCo, CA

quote:
Originally posted by Matt
thanks guys!!! 23 votes should be enough to make the intended statement.


The incident I am referring to is the Chemical Disaster at Bhopal.

The plant, manufacturing industrial-strength pesticides, leaked 40 tons of MIC (very deadly gas) on the night of December 3, 1984, into the surrounding village of Bhopal.

The leak was not detected by the safety systems installed, because they had either been turned off, or were being repaired. The Union Carbide (now a subsidiary of Dow Chemical) plant was not up to the same standards as its plants in America.

At LEAST 2000 people were killed that night, and up to 8000 died during the following days. Up to 20000 men, women and children have died from the effects of the gas to this day.


that is exactly the first thing that i thought of. that is one of the major incidents you learn about in every industrial safety class you will ever take.

by the way, you say here that the problem was due to not being up to safety standards but the bottom line was that it was people being dumbasses. most major saftey incident come down to human error. it also happens a lot more on night shift. safety standards are about mistaking proofing systems from people. i've also seen reports about Bhopal that attributed it to sabotage.

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Boomer187
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: USA

gah, earthquake is not an option.

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NiteMer
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Denver, CO

I had gone with flood too, but that's terrible.


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Matt
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Toronto, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by butterfly
that is exactly the first thing that i thought of. that is one of the major incidents you learn about in every industrial safety class you will ever take.

by the way, you say here that the problem was due to not being up to safety standards but the bottom line was that it was people being dumbasses. most major saftey incident come down to human error. it also happens a lot more on night shift. safety standards are about mistaking proofing systems from people. i've also seen reports about Bhopal that attributed it to sabotage.


thats true, I was just paraphrasing really.


and there is some evidence that it was sagotage, but not really enough IMHO... of course Union Carbide backs the sabotage thing 120%.


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Photo_bot_2k1
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Berkeley,CA

quote:
Originally posted by Matt
thanks guys!!! 23 votes should be enough to make the intended statement.


The incident I am referring to is the Chemical Disaster at Bhopal.

The plant, manufacturing industrial-strength pesticides, leaked 40 tons of MIC (very deadly gas) on the night of December 3, 1984, into the surrounding village of Bhopal.

The leak was not detected by the safety systems installed, because they had either been turned off, or were being repaired. The Union Carbide (now a subsidiary of Dow Chemical) plant was not up to the same standards as its plants in America.

At LEAST 2000 people were killed that night, and up to 8000 died during the following days. Up to 20000 men, women and children have died from the effects of the gas to this day.


i was also tottally thinking about this exact incident. i saw something about it on a documentary once.

what the heck was the point of the vote?


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Krypton
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Registered: Nov 2003
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i remember hearing about a lot of people dying in india because a pesticide plant released a huge gas cloud overnight, that killed many people.

so its a chemical accident.


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Matt
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Toronto, Canada

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Originally posted by Photo_bot_2k1
i was also tottally thinking about this exact incident. i saw something about it on a documentary once.

what the heck was the point of the vote?




just making a point in my seminar that the issues surrounding the aftermath of Bhopal aren't getting the attention it deserves.


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butterfly
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: West CoCo, CA

quote:
Originally posted by Matt
just making a point in my seminar that the issues surrounding the aftermath of Bhopal aren't getting the attention it deserves.


i disagree with that. in relevant industries it gets a lot of attention. it is one of three major safety incidents in recent industrial history that is used to set an example of how the safety industry has progressed. (and i forgot what the other two are, maybe that nuclear plant in russia was one...) i work in an industry that is heavily impacted by OSHA, EPA, and other regulatory agencies and we put in a lot of effort to make sure our facility and product is safe for our employees, community and customers. Bhopal was one of those events that reshaped the way industry approaches safety. Just cause the general population doesnt talk about it anymore doesnt mean that its effects arent considered seriously in industry.

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Registered: Jul 2004
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I'll reply to the poll only on the condition that you change your avatar.


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Matt
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Toronto, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by butterfly
i disagree with that. in relevant industries it gets a lot of attention. it is one of three major safety incidents in recent industrial history that is used to set an example of how the safety industry has progressed. (and i forgot what the other two are, maybe that nuclear plant in russia was one...) i work in an industry that is heavily impacted by OSHA, EPA, and other regulatory agencies and we put in a lot of effort to make sure our facility and product is safe for our employees, community and customers. Bhopal was one of those events that reshaped the way industry approaches safety. Just cause the general population doesnt talk about it anymore doesnt mean that its effects arent considered seriously in industry.


has Bhopal been cleaned up?


no.



but it doesn't really matter if you disagree or not, it's a HIGH SCHOOL seminar that I am gonna get 90+ on anyway.


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Matt
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Registered: Nov 2001
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I'll reply to the poll only on the condition that you change your avatar.


you sir, can go to hell.


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