hahahaha i'm not really surprised , our good old friend has finally signed to a cheese pop label , oh well it's his life , good luck Paul

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lotsa dollars for oakie in the bottom line and a lot more fame......
good luck paul

Now can we all agree that Oakenfold is a sell out?
He has sucked for some time now...
his projects always suck.
Too predictable Paul.

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Originally posted by Ckerr812 I don't hink you understand this....He just released a mix CD.....That is not a what he will do for maverick....This record will be all tracks produced by him and Andgy Grey probably.....All new stuff......This album will put trance on the mainsstream in the states......

Ok, ok, but I don't think that if Paul made an actual trance album, that it would put it on the mainstream simply because Madonnas label is behind it. The US is fickle, they like pop, they like words, they like hot chicks/guys, they like rock/hip hop hybrids(note: check the Crazy Town rumor^^). Now if Oakey made a straight trance album, it could have all of these things, but most likely it would have these things + being dumbed down. I really think the US will eventually 'get' trance, or at least most electronic music, but I don't think one cd will change everything in one day. Has that ever happened? Did one cd make every white kid listen to hip hop? No, and trance wouldn't be the same. Plus anything related to Madonna drips of that sickly sweet goo, pop. And pop does not make 'real' trance. Do you consider Dj Jean - The Launch 'real' trance; how about Zombie Nation - Kernkraft400? Maybe a very long time ago, cause those songs have trance elements and are actually more popular than you would think in the US, but trance still hasn't broke here...and I doubt that it will for years still...late/

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Originally posted by biznology Ok, ok, but I don't think that if Paul made an actual trance album, that it would put it on the mainstream simply because Madonnas label is behind it. The US is fickle, they like pop, they like words, they like hot chicks/guys, they like rock/hip hop hybrids(note: check the Crazy Town rumor^^). Now if Oakey made a straight trance album, it could have all of these things, but most likely it would have these things + being dumbed down. I really think the US will eventually 'get' trance, or at least most electronic music, but I don't think one cd will change everything in one day. Has that ever happened? Did one cd make every white kid listen to hip hop? No, and trance wouldn't be the same. Plus anything related to Madonna drips of that sickly sweet goo, pop. And pop does not make 'real' trance. Do you consider Dj Jean - The Launch 'real' trance; how about Zombie Nation - Kernkraft400? Maybe a very long time ago, cause those songs have trance elements and are actually more popular than you would think in the US, but trance still hasn't broke here...and I doubt that it will for years still...late/

very well stated.....gotta agree w/ ya...
BUT
this still doesn't change my mind about Oakie

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Originally posted by plastikE very well stated.....gotta agree w/ ya... BUT this still doesn't change my mind about Oakie

Yeah there was a time when I was an Oakie fan no doubt. Now I take everything bearing his name with a grain of salt. I won't blindly purchase his CDs or whatever, without first listening to them. But I also won't choose to say he sucks without letting him have a chance, we all know he can pull of some amazing things, not that he has in a while or anything... late/

First of all Maverick isn't a cheesy label. Secondly Oakenjoke has already commericalized trance...how many cds did he release this year? 4? There are still commericals for Tranceport.

I bet Madonna loves his remix of what it feels like, as do I but he has lost his passion, all he cares bout is the $.

When I saw him at the Pefecto closing party at Pacha, Ibiza he was suprisingly not as uplifting as I expected. He was trying to be progressive/tribal...it was boring.

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Originally posted by Twilogoddess First of all Maverick isn't a cheesy label. Secondly Oakenjoke has already commericalized trance...how many cds did he release this year? 4? There are still commericals for Tranceport. I bet Madonna loves his remix of what it feels like, as do I but he has lost his passion, all he cares bout is the $. When I saw him at the Pefecto closing party at Pacha, Ibiza he was suprisingly not as uplifting as I expected. He was trying to be progressive/tribal...it was boring.

well ok, here we go again...no offense, and no ill wil, i hope TG, but it seems that we are forever destined to argue over the big PO.
Maverick being cheesy or not doesnt really matter cause who, honestly, in the US chooses music thru a label? when i say 'pop' i just mean that it isnt underground, and if it aint underground, then there is some cheese associated with it.
Oakenfold has commercialized trance here due to his popularity and skill(circa 1997). Tranceport is still being advertised cause 95% on the US doesnt have the faintest idea how music can be classified as trance, plus its a DAMN good cd.
I never said Oakie isnt in it for the money anymore, we all know he digs the skrilla, but he still has that little grain of talent floating around in his bizarre shaped head, and it occasionally shows itself.
As for progressive/tribal, Oakie has always been a little of both, even if he was uplifting back in the day. He has NEVER been a straight uplifting DJ like Micro or the like, and some of his biggest tunes were tribal(brainbug - nightmare). Just cause you saw him and he was boring, doesnt mean that its because hes spinning these genres. I have seen deep dish and they are genius, but honestly what they spun was BORING!! My last comment is that I have heard people say that Oakenfold always seems to know what will be big next...i think this is in a way true, even if he isnt as 'uplifting' as we would all like him to be...late/

read my other comments for insight into this specific topic...

this is a sad, sad day...

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Well good on him I say ... even if he ends up selling out and making a shit cheese trance-lite album to cash in 'Stateside, the man's done probably more for trance over the years than any other person alive and he deserves his big corporate payout. That Lotherton hall Gatecrasher set of his, is without a doubt the greatest hour of trance ever spun, I have listened to it hundreds and hundreds of times and it still makes my knees go weak

I haven't been that impressed with his recent sets but on the other hand I think Tiesto's been going downhill ever since Flight 643 so who cares which one's copying the other? The trance-innovator label has long ago left either of those two and been passed to newer, better producers like Dumonde.

Besides ... it might be all a smoke screen ... imagine if his master plan is to make a crap Britney-pop-trance album and get a few hundred thousand MTV teeny boppers along to his big fuck off stadium show, lock the doors to keep em all inside and then spin a 3 or 4 hour classic super uplifting set circa '99 ... kids minds would be BLOWN!! ... the impending USA trance revolution would be well and truly started How fuckin cool would that be??

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