You're right. We can stand 8 years of GW Bush.

Besides Kerry would not have been any better. It is a one party system and I am not talking about Democratic, Republican or Independent parties.

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Originally posted by The Declaration of Independence IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776 The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.....

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Hah eastern Ukraine isn't going to split, unless Yanukovich cheats again, that is. Being upset over elections and protesting is one thing, but seeking autonomy over that is totally another. Its simply a bluff from Yanukovich's rabid supporters, and one that is very sensationalized in the media.

Can't wait for the supreme court announcement.

The supreme court postponed its verdict...what can this mean ? Are they influenced by the authorities as well ?

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I smell shinanigans...

Was Yushchenko poisoned?

The pictures are much more interesting...

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Mystery surrounds Yushchenko ailment Thursday, November 25, 2004 Posted: 0942 GMT (1742 HKT) VIENNA, Austria (AP) -- What ails Viktor Yushchenko? As Ukraine's popular pro-Western opposition leader claimed victory Tuesday in hotly contested presidential elections, the mystery surrounding an appearance-altering illness that twice prompted him to check into a Vienna hospital persisted. Yushchenko accused the Ukrainian authorities of poisoning him. His detractors suggested he'd eaten some bad sushi. Adding to the intrigue, the Austrian doctors who treated him have asked foreign experts to help determine if his symptoms may have been caused by toxins found in biological weapons. Medical experts said they may never know for sure what befell Yushchenko. But the illness, whatever it was, has dramatically changed his appearance since he first sought treatment at Vienna's private Rudolfinerhaus clinic on September 10. Known for his ruggedly handsome, almost movie star looks, Yushchenko's complexion is now pockmarked. His face is haggard, swollen and partially paralyzed. One eye often tears up. Doctors at Rudolfinerhaus declined to comment Tuesday. By the time Yushchenko checked out of the clinic last month after returning for follow-up treatment, physicians said they could neither prove nor rule out that he had been poisoned. Dr. Nikolai Korpan, who oversaw Yushchenko's treatment in Vienna, said the cause of his illness remained "totally open.'' Doctors were unable to confirm suspicions of poisoning because Yushchenko first checked into the clinic four days after the symptoms appeared -- too late for tests to show if poisoning had occurred, Korpan said. At Rudolfinerhaus, Yushchenko underwent a week of intensive treatment for several illnesses, including acute pancreatitis, a viral skin disease and nerve paralysis on the left side of his face, Korpan said. Clinic director Michael Zimpfer said doctors were unable to explain some of Yushchenko's symptoms, particularly his strong backaches. He said they could not rule out stress or a viral infection. Yushchenko's doctors in Kiev, the Ukrainian capital, said they had determined that "chemicals not of a food origin'' had triggered the illness. Zimpfer and the clinic's chief physician, Dr. Lothar Wicke -- who requested police protection after receiving an anonymous threat while treating Yushchenko -- later asked for outside help from "a specialist in military operations and biological weapons,'' the Austria Press Agency reported. Yushchenko's medical files since have been sealed and turned over to Austrian prosecutors, local media reported. Authorities have not said whether they planned to investigate further or merely turn over their findings to Ukraine. Earlier this month, Volodymyr Syvkovych, the head of a 15-member Ukrainian parliamentary commission that investigated the mysterious illness, said a forensic medical examination found no traces of "any biological weapons'' in Yushchenko's blood, nails, hair or urine.

The pictures are much more interesting. Bad sushi my ass!

He needs a biopsy done stat.

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Originally posted by Shakka The pictures are much more interesting. Bad sushi my ass!

I wouldn't get so much emphasis on those pictures. I know when we had our parliamentary campaign, many politicians used photoshop to make themselves look better on the posters. When you combine that with makeup and correct lighting, you can get pretty much the same results.

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Whose side is the Ukranian military on?


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Some dumbasses wanted to take a school hostage and threaten to kill the students to force Yanushenko being elected president. Good thing the police cought them in time.

And there's rumours of some eastern Ukrainians being paid to come to Kiev and beat the shit out of Yanushenko supporters if Yanukovitch doesn't win.

Supreme Court Decision tommorow

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 I think you're kinda underestimating the situation there. The country is clearly divided in 2 pretty polarized entities. It looks even though as it might split in two parts.

that's not true... the regional governors are polarized but not the people

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Originally posted by Cal Some dumbasses wanted to take a school hostage and threaten to kill the students to force Yanushenko being elected president. Good thing the police cought them in time.

true provocation... they [dumbasses] were acting on behalf of Yanukovich-supporting mafia, what's more interesting -- they were freed from the jail the next day

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Originally posted by Cal And there's rumours of some eastern Ukrainians being paid to come to Kiev and beat the shit out of Yanushenko supporters if Yanukovitch doesn't win.

they'll lose in quantity anyway