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Originally posted by erdega video link Unfortunatelly you won't see this on cnn or any other controled media. Here we have a bunch of violent muslim albanians in a pack trying very hard to destroy and burn this aparently abandoned and ancient serbian church. It's from this year. Now this is done right under the nose on nato (american) occupation. This is just one small proof of how foreign policy of american government is complicit in terrorism in many parts of the world but in balkans in particular. It really makes me sick.

so who are you blaming ? America or muslims??

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Originally posted by Octanesyco Greetings. My name is Casey. You can call me Moose. -Moose

I stand with my Serbian brothers against this outrage.





It's time we drive all Muslims out of Europe once and for all. Their goal is to conquer Europe; we must stop them... at all costs.



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Originally posted by occrider Ummm fyi, St. Andrew's church in Podujevo was guarded by a Czech regiment of KFOR troops. As a matter of fact, the only troops around the Pristina region was a multinational brigade consisting of Finnish, Swedish, Irish , Czech, and Slovak troops ... not American. Wow, I never knew that Czech foreign policy was so complicit with terrorism .

Czechs and any others smaller european soldiers are just foot soldiers and just like in Iraq I don't think they have any control. The control structure as well as policies is firmly in american hands. This is a different church in "American" sector and yes guy is pissing iside the church.


Unfortunately this is but a small part. There is more at this italian site http://www.salvaimonasteri.org
There are no independent journalists there as they don't want us too see this.

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Originally posted by Electrotek Quit whining, you Serbs destroyed more mosques in Bosnia and Kosovo, and you cry about one church being vandalized? Get over yourself.

Why does it bother you? Who are you to call me out?
One church??? I'll give you more if you dare. These are historic churches and monasteries and what they are doing is genocide no less. Fact is there are no serbs left there because of terrorism and with these destructions they want to complete unthinkable. For this I hold american government personally responsible and I won't rest till justice and truth is served.

Some mosques were destroyed in war but not before or after and radical muslims have a sad tradition of making mosques into military buildings . Second of all, none of them have historical importance, beauty or longevity of these almost 1000 year old churches and monasteries. Most of the mosques are remnants of turkish occupation.

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Originally posted by Massive84 so who are you blaming ? America or muslims??

I hold american government foreign policy responsible for allowing this outrage to continue. It's been way too long and they try hard to cover it up. It is my opinion these muslims wouldn't be able to do this or even think about it if they would didn't enjoy complete immunity and brainwashing from their media which incites them to terrorism almost daily.

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Originally posted by erdega Czechs and any others smaller european soldiers are just foot soldiers and just like in Iraq I don't think they have any control. The control structure as well as policies is firmly in american hands. This is a different church in "American" sector and yes guy is pissing iside the church.

Ummm no, the pic you posted, "Crkva Svetog Djordja u Prizrenu skoro unistena", is the Church of St. George Runovic (15th century)in the city of Prizrenu or Prizren. If you look at the map of KFOR zones whereby a different lead country is responsible for each zone, Prizrenu is under the jurisdiction of Italy in zone 3:



Multinational Specialized Unit

HQ: Pristina
The Multinational Specialized Unit (MSU) is a police force with military status, with an overall police capability.

Lead Nation:
Italy

Contributing Nations:
Italy
France
Estonia

1. Multinational Brigade Centre HQ: Pristina
Responsible for: Podujevo, Kosovo Polje, Lipljan, Obilic, Glogovac and Stimlje.

Lead Nation:
Sweden

Contributing Nations:
Czech Republic
Ireland
Latvia
Slovakia
Finland
United Kingdom

2. Multinational Brigade Northeast

HQ: Nova Selo and Mitrovica
Responsible for: Northern Kosovo

Lead Nation:
France

Contributing Nations:
Belgium
Denmark
Estonia
Greece
Luxembourg
Morocco

3. Multinational Brigade Southwest

HQ: Prizren
Responsible for: Southwest Kosovo

Lead Nation:
Italy

Contributing Nations:
Austria
Argentina
Azerbaijan
Bulgaria
Georgia
Germany
Hungary
Romania
Slovenia
Spain
Switzerland
Turkey

4. Multinational Brigade East

HQ: Urosevac
Responsible for: Eastern Kosovo, border security

Lead Nation:
United States

Contributing Nations:
Armenia
Greece
Lithuania
Poland
Ukraine


http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/balkans/workman.html

And St. Andrew's Church, in Podujevo, is in zone 1 which is Sweden's jurisdiction. The command and control structure for each KFOR zone is clearly in the hands of the lead nation assigned to that zone. Nice try assigning blame to the Americans however ...

The Americans were no more secretely encouraging such acts in as much as Sweden or Italy were not encouraging such acts. The facts of the situation was that KFOR troops were sometimes overwhelmed and forced to withdraw rather than inflict deadly force on civilians. Your fallacial arguments that are Begging the Question are unconvincing.

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Originally posted by erdega I hold american government foreign policy responsible for allowing this outrage to continue. It's been way too long and they try hard to cover it up. It is my opinion these muslims wouldn't be able to do this or even think about it if they would didn't enjoy complete immunity and brainwashing from their media which incites them to terrorism almost daily.

Ok, let's say that the changing US governments systematically have been controlling the media to not report on these matters. Then answer me this: How come they haven't succeeded in hiding news on destruction caused by radical muslims elsewhere? Why doesn't European media report on the matters? Do you think that the US government holds any power whatsoever on European media services?

Try to take a step back and see this for what it really is. This is vandalism targeting a bunch of abandoned churches. The churches may be important manifestations of some obscure parts of Serbian history, but their continued existence is, as a matter of fact, of no interest to the average Joe in other countries. That's why these stories are not reported by CNN and other news outlets.
I ask you this: Did Serbian news report on the systematic theft of ancient books from the Danish national library last year? Entire sections of our national identity went out the window on that occasion, and all the major international news stations didn't report on it. They were probably told not to by the US government. I tell you, the US government is helping these thieves. It hates us Danes.

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Originally posted by erdega Why does it bother you? Who are you to call me out? One church??? I'll give you more if you dare. These are historic churches and monasteries and what they are doing is genocide no less. Fact is there are no serbs left there because of terrorism and with these destructions they want to complete unthinkable. For this I hold american government personally responsible and I won't rest till justice and truth is served. Some mosques were destroyed in war but not before or after and radical muslims have a sad tradition of making mosques into military buildings . Second of all, none of them have historical importance, beauty or longevity of these almost 1000 year old churches and monasteries. Most of the mosques are remnants of turkish occupation.

Considering the fact that it was YOUR people who started the whole war in the Balkans, and considering that the majority of the atrocities in the Balkans were committed by the Serbs, I have every single right to call you out on your hypocrisy. I guess you liked it when you Serbs slaughtered women and children in Srebrenica, right?

Radical Muslims? How the fuck are they radical? Because they were defending their homes and their families from warmongering Serbs who were hellbent on death and destruction? Yeah that makes them radical

You want justice huh? Why don't you start taking action against Mladic and Karadzic before you mention justice. Justice needs to be done upon the Serbs for what they have done in the Balkans.

Albanians don't like Christians? Gee, I wonder how they get along with their Catholic counterparts, considering that they consider themselves brothers and even celebrate holidays together

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf I stand with my Serbian brothers against this outrage. It's time we drive all Muslims out of Europe once and for all. Their goal is to conquer Europe; we must stop them... at all costs. edit:

That explains why you're full of shit. You have blood on your hands in Bosnia and Kosovo.

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Originally posted by Electrotek That explains why you're full of shit. You have blood on your hands in Bosnia and Kosovo.

No, the Turks/Muslims have blood on their hands for invading Europe in the first place.

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf I stand with my Serbian brothers against this outrage. It's time we drive all Muslims out of Europe once and for all. Their goal is to conquer Europe; we must stop them... at all costs. edit:

You're a bad joke on a sweaty t-shirt.
At best.

Damn shame. Looked like a nice church too.

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