looks like iriver is going to my christmas list.

definately its the marketing.

where do u find irivers?

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Originally posted by goodgreef at the time when i was buying my ipod the iriver had a lot of bad reviews and a person i personally knew had to return an iriver two or three times (THAT'S A LOT OF HASSLE!!!)..

Hey, that's possible - you're bound to find someone who has a problem with any product. Comparing apples (no pun intended) to apples, iPod is weak on features, has bloatware that needs to be installed and can be somewhat user-unfriendly, despite all the advertising.

As far as reviews go, consider the source... if you used any of the Ziff Davis sites (CNET, PCWorld, etc) - I don't consider Ziff Davis an objective source... - they are paid advertising machine. I posted several negative reviews about some products on their site and none were published.

Either way - if iPod rocks your boat, rock on.. all I am saying, do a due dilligence don't just follow what U2 tells you to do.

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Originally posted by goodgreef the case was never leather.

oh yeah... that's right, it was like vinyl or smth... and the clip broke off on the very first day.

iRiver has a leather case to go with it...

www.iriver.com - no, I'm not a paid agent...

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Originally posted by CynepMeH Ugh... they did That's why I returned iPod and bought iRiver. I've had mine for almost 2 years... As far as everything else - iPod is pure marketing. I guess if it works for you - great. Actually, I was surprised to find out that in new iPods, they don't give you remote anymore and don't give you a leather case. I wonder why? Cost cutting? oh, and the navigation wheel is no longer touch alone, it's touch and push, where's the old one was just touch sensitive.

i dont remember the features of the iriver back then, but i think ipods were the smallest and i considered another option, but was too heavy and too big.


i hope mp3 players get thinner.

yeah for sure.. anyway i just checked whatever sites i could for reviews.. i did research for about 2 months before i finally went ahead and bought my ipod as it was something i was fishing out a lot of money for and didnt want to spend it on something i would later regret..


i mainly talked to friends (aquientances) who used both products, and asked them what they thought of both... i tried not to look into paid-advertising review sites because they're too biased for my liking.


everyones entitled to their own opinion... but like i said it all depends on what you expect in the first place. i got what i expected.

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Btw, you are wrong about irivers being cheaper

Iriver 20gb - $450

Ipod 20gb - $430

http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/pr...51&newdeptid=19


http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/pr...65000FS10043653

Yeah... but you don't get:

1. build in and external microphone for recording shows
2. Remote control
3. Leather case
4. Optical in/out
5. Support for WMA/Oog/ etc.
6. Better product

Is it worth the extra $20????

Oh... the color one is actually cheaper because of rebates:

http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_...729/promo_id=63

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Originally posted by Dmatrox Btw, you are wrong about irivers being cheaper Iriver 20gb - $450 Ipod 20gb - $430 http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/pr...51&newdeptid=19 http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/pr...65000FS10043653

lol if you brought it from there you hella got ripped off...
I got my iriver for about 250 bucks and i heard they lowered the price even more since I got mine.
iRiver>iPod end of story.
There is nothing iPod whores can say about thier product that would top the iRiver.

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Originally posted by CynepMeH Yeah... but you don't get: 1. build in and external microphone for recording shows 2. Remote control 3. Leather case 4. Optical in/out 5. Support for WMA/Oog/ etc. 6. Better product Is it worth the extra $20???? Oh... the color one is actually cheaper because of rebates: http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_...729/promo_id=63

1. Ipod has optional accesories
2. Both have remote control included
3. Both have a carrying case included, no specifics on type
4. Dont know what that is, but there are no specifics for either product on optical
5. That is opinionated
6. You are biased.


conclusion: u are biased

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Originally posted by Photo_bot_2k1 lol if you brought it from there you hella got ripped off... I got my iriver for about 250 bucks and i heard they lowered the price even more since I got mine. iRiver>iPod end of story. There is nothing iPod whores can say about thier product that would top the iRiver.

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Originally posted by Dmatrox 1. Ipod has optional accesories 2. Both have remote control included 3. Both have a carrying case included, no specifics on type 4. Dont know what that is, but there are no specifics for either product on optical 5. That is opinionated 6. You are biased. conclusion: u are biased

Check your facts, Jack! I pod does not have optional accessories, unles s you consider the charging cradle and usb/firewire cable "accessories" I bought a 40GB iPod last week for my wife (which is going back this week) - it doesn't have remote or case or radio and it sucks big donkey balls.

yeah, I'm biased... I don't like overhyped crapolas.

Here are specs for iRiver:
Color edition:
http://www.iriveramerica.com/products/H340.aspx#

"legacy" edition:
http://www.iriveramerica.com/products/H120.aspx#

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Originally posted by CynepMeH no, I'm not a paid agent...

I dont know why but i dont believe you

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