i'm a total football n00b, so dispense with the flames when i'm done...

why are some games played in empty stadiums? is it to keep the hooligans away? i never understood that....

i await your ridicule...

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Originally posted by mr. poopyhead i'm a total football n00b, so dispense with the flames when i'm done... why are some games played in empty stadiums? is it to keep the hooligans away? i never understood that.... i await your ridicule...

its to serve as punishment for a violation by a club or usually its fans ... in this case a fan threw a coin at referee anders frisk back in september in a champions league game with dynamo kiev thus busting him open so roma were fined a certain amount and were made to play their next 3 games in an empty stadium .. a bit of a fuct up rule i should think since 80000 people are being made to pay for one mans deeds ... some deliberate trouble makers might take advantage of this and do the same thing next time and the same thing will be imposed again ... i think uefa needs to find a better way to fine clubs ..

YEAAAAAHHHHHH REAL MADRID!!!!!!! I was glad that Roma didn't have any fans because it too away their homefield advantage and increased Real Madrid's chances of winning and we did it baby yeahhhhh!!!! ZIDANE RULES!!!!!

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These kinds of incident occur frequently throughout the old continent but it’s the first time I’ve seen UEFA take such stern action, especially in the most prominent club competition. You always see a hefty fine thrown in the direction of the club, in some cases alternatives stadiums in the vicinity of the home side host the match but a match behind close doors is quite atypical. 80,000 fans are be punished because of one supporter’s projectile but he certainly wasn’t the sole tifosi pelting the referee with various objects. The situation was emotional, Mexes deservedly got the red card, Roma was down 0-1 to Dynamo, emotions boil and from the rain of objects that felt on the athletic track of Stadio Olimpico a coin found its way up on Frink’s forehead. There’s no excuse really, but punishing the club in such a harsh manner really doesn’t serve its purpose. Football is football, it’s emotional, and if somebody in UEFA thought that by such an absurd penalty the same incident would never occur again they were dead wrong.

In the meantime in Istanbul, Man U was thought a lesson by a in form Fener side, and it’s quite deservedly that Lyon ended atop of the group. I was exceedingly pleased to see Monaco abolish Deportivo and move on to the next stages. Overall there were a few surprising results, some thrilling comebacks, several quality goals and a nice profit for bet365.com of $100 on my expense.

Let’s highlight the goal of the day :: http://www.antu.com/naklen/2004-200...fener1manu0.mpg

Cheers

^^^ GEEEZ MAN...you should write commentaries for newspapers and magazines

You've got quite the magic touch

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Originally posted by raveed its to serve as punishment for a violation by a club or usually its fans ... in this case a fan threw a coin at referee anders frisk back in september in a champions league game with dynamo kiev thus busting him open so roma were fined a certain amount and were made to play their next 3 games in an empty stadium .. a bit of a fuct up rule i should think since 80000 people are being made to pay for one mans deeds ... some deliberate trouble makers might take advantage of this and do the same thing next time and the same thing will be imposed again ... i think uefa needs to find a better way to fine clubs ..

i totally agree.. and that tactic could be used by some hooligan to adversely affect a rival club

justice isn't being served here..

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Originally posted by starsearcher ^^^ GEEEZ MAN...you should write commentaries for newspapers and magazines You've got quite the magic touch

this man revels in the drama of the athletic threatre..

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ootball is football, it’s emotional, and if somebody in UEFA thought that by such an absurd penalty the same incident would never occur again they were dead wrong.

I don't see what's so absurd about this punishment. If anything, it
wasn't strong enough. UEFA would quickly run out of referees if that kind of behaviour from the fans was tolerated.

This punishment obviously won't teach the fans, but at least it shows that UEFA does not tolerate that kind of behaviour, and IMHO that's important.

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Originally posted by Dj-HordasH These kinds of incident occur frequently throughout the old continent but it’s the first time I’ve seen UEFA take such stern action, especially in the most prominent club competition. You always see a hefty fine thrown in the direction of the club, in some cases alternatives stadiums in the vicinity of the home side host the match but a match behind close doors is quite atypical. 80,000 fans are be punished because of one supporter’s projectile but he certainly wasn’t the sole tifosi pelting the referee with various objects. The situation was emotional, Mexes deservedly got the red card, Roma was down 0-1 to Dynamo, emotions boil and from the rain of objects that felt on the athletic track of Stadio Olimpico a coin found its way up on Frink’s forehead. There’s no excuse really, but punishing the club in such a harsh manner really doesn’t serve its purpose. Football is football, it’s emotional, and if somebody in UEFA thought that by such an absurd penalty the same incident would never occur again they were dead wrong. In the meantime in Istanbul, Man U was thought a lesson by a in form Fener side, and it’s quite deservedly that Lyon ended atop of the group. I was exceedingly pleased to see Monaco abolish Deportivo and move on to the next stages. Overall there were a few surprising results, some thrilling comebacks, several quality goals and a nice profit for bet365.com of $100 on my expense. Let’s highlight the goal of the day :: http://www.antu.com/naklen/2004-200...fener1manu0.mpg Cheers

just for dissing Man U and to prove my point ... maybe next time i head to france il watch a Marseille home game with some big one pound coins in my hand

Our season begins here really. The game was as the announcer said, very anti-climax but if it was your team you would understand how little you could care about the stadium. Don't get me wrong I'm 100% on the atmosphere is more than 50% of soccer, but all I've wanted since injury time vs. Leverkusen is a win in Rome and I can proudly say I'm a releaved man right now

Great game by the bucktooth wonder, maybe he should play more often in front of empty stadiums

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Originally posted by SPANIARD Great game by the bucktooth wonder, maybe he should play more often in front of empty stadiums

Good one Benny, I think he’s the man with the most impressive plethora of disparaging nicknames in football today. He had a few quality runs; quite frankly at the end of his solo action I would’ve given him a penalty out of respect as well. I think you’ll be turning your season around as well but I definitely do not see you venture to the latest stages of the CL, besides you have a colossal Catalan hindrance in your own yard to be preoccupied with.

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Originally posted by raveed just for dissing Man U and to prove my point ... maybe next time i head to france il watch a Marseille home game with some big one pound coins in my hand

Nice retort, usually in le Vélodrome the other 59,999 fanatics get on the referee’s case in fiercer fashion that I’ve seen in most other grounds. The most zealous Ultras (MTP, SW, Fanatiks...) are placed in the higher ends of the stands behind the goals. Several layers of nets stand in the way of the pitch and they are extremely elevated, making it impossible to aim accurately at bodies on the field, however when PSG is in town everyone makes sure to sacrifice all the change for Letizi. Needless to say, the stadium’s ground workers collect a solid chunk of change at the end of the night along with umbrellas, lighters, fireworks and cell phone batteries, which are getting more and more popular.


Whether or not the action taken against Roma was appropriate is debatable but football will always be football, it’s a religion, it gets passionate and sometime it gets out of control. We’ve lived with it so far, we’ll continue to do so... on the same account it got pretty nasty in Valencia few days ago as well ::
>> http://www.uefa.com/competitions/UC...sId=266626.html
Btw, That’s Toronto’s Paul Stalteri on the photo in Werder's ranks

Cheers

Yeah Valencia is the saddest story of European Soccer. Ranieri has ruined one of the most modelized teams in Europe. When he subbed Aimar for that Brazlian defender when it was 0-0 before the first goal, I think it was like lighting the bomb for them(the public) which I can understand under the circumstances. They will probably get some kind of fine, but the real problem for them is there team which has as much potential as any other (come on with Vicente, Aimar, Di Vaio in attack you have options :whip.

And yeah btw respect to Fener for beating up on those punk kids. I can't wait until this weekend for the Gala-Fener match which is always one of europe's unconditional Classics.

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