what exactly is this controller gonna do that current ones can't?

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I remember reading somewhere that James Holden is also designing a "custom controller" ...

This step towards the future of Djing sounds very promising.

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Originally posted by [ groovypants ] This step towards the future of Djing sounds very promising.

i wouldn't call it the future of djing. djing will still be around for a while. its pretty much artists realizing that being a dj is a pretty cruddy way of of being an artist. anyone can mix records, so instead they are focusing on what artists do, performing (ie live shows).

pretty logical to me.

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i'm definitely not going to be a dj forever, because when you look at it, you're basically just playing other people's music... basically

in the end i'd like to be doing live pa or something along those lines, much more of a show

and it seems a lot of the producers are taking that route as well

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Originally posted by mikefasssy i wouldn't call it the future of djing. djing will still be around for a while. its pretty much artists realizing that being a dj is a pretty cruddy way of of being an artist. anyone can mix records, so instead they are focusing on what artists do, performing (ie live shows). pretty logical to me.

Well, anyone can play guitar, but there are still plenty of rock stars...

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Originally posted by Lephaid Well, anyone can play guitar, but there are still plenty of rock stars...

I think the main issue is that artists are creative. There is not much creativity involved in playing other peoples records or playing other peoples songs (with a guitar or any instrument).

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Originally posted by Lephaid Well, anyone can play guitar, but there are still plenty of rock stars...

what i really am talking about is whether or not you consider yourself an artist. a dj is not an artist, he is a dj. he is mixing the tunes of artists. im not trying to knock djing, cause i love it and will do it forever, im just saying that i think its perfectly logical that people are searching for ways to become more involved in presenting their work.

i would also argue that playing a guitar takes loads more talent than getting the speed of plastic the same.

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Originally posted by mikefasssy i would also argue that playing a guitar takes loads more talent than getting the speed of plastic the same.

no. every asshole plays guitar, or atleast says they do. i mean who doesn't play guitar? and you know there's more to djing then just matching up the vinyl.

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Originally posted by Tegu no. every asshole plays guitar, or atleast says they do. i mean who doesn't play guitar?

theres a difference between being able to play a few chords and actually knowing how to play guitar thoroughly. even i can play a few basic chords, and i suck!

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Originally posted by Tegu and you know there's more to djing then just matching up the vinyl.

that is true, track selection? crowd interaction? i'm all for djing, i just think its terribly over-stereotyped as being a difficult thing to do. if you want to continue to be only a dj, and shut out the possibility of taking your interaction with the music you love one step further, thats fine with me.

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Originally posted by mikefasssy have you ever even used live for a show?? having a controller specifically designed for it would be fucking sick, midi controllers are great, but anything designed around a sole product usually has benifits.

nope, but i saw sasha using it about 2 weeks ago and it pretty much looked and sounded like live sequencing to me, instead of mixing with high, low and mids, he was mixing with individual elements of the tracks.. swapping a bassline for another while keeping the rest of the components on the other tracks. as for live remixing, well, the tracks that i KNEW that sasha played werent really 'remixed' in any form, but i didn't recognise a lot of them so who knows.

and yeah, i tend to agree that djing 2 records together especially if your mixing prog isn't really much of an effort these days, i mean you've got 7 minutes half the time - that said, if your mixing minimal techno or dnb or anything that a) requires fast mixing and b) has opportunities for 'creative' mixing then djing is hardly boring.

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Who cares? We have turntables and cdj's...all we needs now.

Besides...It's probably just a damn DM2 hooked up to Traktor on his laptop

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