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DigiNut
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Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe

quote:
Originally posted by j_spot
actually the free ipods and free flat screen things are legit.
I was surprised to find it out
like digi said, open only to US residents, but they sell you direct adverts, and as commision for this, they get X dollars. They give you a ipod for it and make X minus ipod. Quite a deal for the consumer IMO.

Which ones are you talking about? I haven't seen free ipods or flat screens (except for the Pepsi contest).


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j_spot
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Registered: Mar 2001
Location: Calgary

www.********s.com and
www.freeflatscreens.com I think


either way, I thought they were scams, but then wired and CNN did articles on them and how they werent pyramid scams, and they are actually BBB listed companies in direct marketing.


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Tordan
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Registered: Jun 2002
Location: Toronto, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by nycionx
execpt the best thing in life...

altho if u want sex without trying to get a woman and go thru the whole process (which i understand can be a bitch for many), can pay for it. so then it isnt free in that case.
otherwise it is. god bless!


No matter what way you get it, you end up paying for it one way or another.


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goodnet
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Registered: Nov 2000
Location: Toronto, Canada

Amusing how the free ipods website URL got blocked in j_spot's post! I think those Multi-Level-Marketing sites that give away free flat panels & ipods are good until the word about those offers gets too big.

Later, everyone and thier cousin are trying to do it and then nobody wants to sign up when approached. Maybe i'm wrong though!

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St_Andrew
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Registered: May 2003
Location: Stockholm, Sweden

if something is too good to be true, you are missing some condition/term somewhere...

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DigiNut
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Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe

quote:
Originally posted by j_spot
www.********s.com and
www.freeflatscreens.com I think


either way, I thought they were scams, but then wired and CNN did articles on them and how they werent pyramid scams, and they are actually BBB listed companies in direct marketing.

Seems that they all have the same terms and conditions; the people you refer actually have to sign up for something, they can't just register. That's where they get you - most of the people who sign up probably don't realize this and think that they only need to get their friends to register - getting them to actually buy something is another story.

Their claims are legit in the sense that they'll send you your prize if you refer people who sign up for offers, but they probably end up giving out very few prizes because most people don't buy anything. I can see how that works so well from a marketing perspective: if it spreads to 50,000 people and only a handful of say, 5000 scattered individuals actually sign up for something, they're basically getting a pantload of free advertising.

It's actually kind of funny when you think about it - the e-MLM business strategy revolves around the hope that 1 out of 5 people WON'T buy anything.


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tatgirl
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Washington DC

It's probably a piece of shit digicam anyways.

Now if u really want something good, I have a nice bridge for sale, just for you, nycionx!


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rabbitjoker
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Toronto, ON, CANADA

Let y'all in on some insight here:

I'm in the imarketing/iadvertising business. CPA (cost-per-acquisition) model type of marketing campaigns are nothing new to the ad biz - they've been around for ages. Offline it's called Direct Response (DR).

What the internet has done however, is that it has given the end-purchaser/act'er the ability to share in the revenue that is generated on the action (sale, sign-up, registration, response, etc).

Be happy - in the "old world" you wouldn't get shit for doing an action (other than the direct benifit).

Offline - how do you think a big chunk of the infomercials on TV are paid for? You got it - DR (CPA). Same goes for a chunk of all the direct mail - they usually all have some DR/CPA component to the media spend.

So.... Back to the question at hand:

Is this legit? Possibly. Some of these guys actually DO send product if you complete the (usually) detailed requirements. Some make the requirements so difficult that it is impossible to complete - so beware.

However - if you're that desperate for cash/goods - I can send you 100s of DR/CPA type of advertisers who you can sign-up for and collect the revenue yourself. I get probably 10 to 15 phone calls per day from companies saying "promote my shit, i'll give you $X for every action". The $X ranges from a few $ to a few hundred $ depending on the action.

As a matter of habbit I turn them all down, as I believe that any promotion or media spend has SOME branding value and thus should have SOME up-front cost to go with it (not just DR/CPA based).

It's a pretty damn good proposition for an advertiser/marketer - only pay for the media/promotion if someone actually acts/buys - but it completely ignores that EVERY TIME somone sees a product or brand, there is value to the advertiser/marketer.

Ok, too much thinking for one night.

edit: excuse the typing/grammar - i typed this as fast as i could because i don't want to spend my night thinking about business - that is what 9 to 5 is for.


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