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George Smiley
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quote:
Originally posted by stren
China has nukes as well so the war would be bout 20-40 mins long

Er...they only have around 20!

Anyway, where the hell did this idea that China was gonna invade Russia come from?! Links anybody?

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Reverend_Trance
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quote:
Originally posted by George Smiley
Er...they only have around 20!

Anyway, where the hell did this idea that China was gonna invade Russia come from?! Links anybody?


The Chinese and Russians have a shared border and in the middle in Mongolia. If they wanted to they could just march on over. The Amur River would be the biggest obsticale facing the Chinese if they did invade. The Russians could give up a lot of land if they wished but would lose a lot of oil and other natural resources.

Read The Bear and the Dragon by Tom Clancy. It gives a good setup if a war like this happened in post-Cold War Russia.

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George Smiley
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The Chinese and Russians have a shared border and in the middle in Mongolia. If they wanted to they could just march on over. The Amur River would be the biggest obsticale facing the Chinese if they did invade. The Russians could give up a lot of land if they wished but would lose a lot of oil and other natural resources.

Read The Bear and the Dragon by Tom Clancy. It gives a good setup if a war like this happened in post-Cold War Russia.

Riiiight...so we are basing this theory that China wants to go to war with Russia on a Tom Clancy novel?

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jonSun
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quote:
Originally posted by George Smiley
Riiiight...so we are basing this theory that China wants to go to war with Russia on a Tom Clancy novel?


Yes Link Please.


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Reverend_Trance
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Yes Link Please.
Amazon.com Synopsis

The above link goes to Amazon.com where it gives a description of the book. In the end, political and military pressure by the United States saves the day. (Naturally, it is a Tom Clancy novel, the US ALWAYS saves the day)

It has been awhile since I read the book. I was just trying to add to the random post that China will invade Russia. Maybe we are looking into some random post a bit too much. Personally from an economic standpoint, if China took oil-laden Siberia it would hurt the Russian economy. Russia is the world's largest exporter of oil outside of OPEC. The loss of oil until the Chinese redeveloped and rebuilt war-torn Siberia would take time. The Russian would not leave the oil wells intact would they? And the Chinese might keep the oil for themselves. In the short term, the price of oil would go up, rippling across the globe affecting any industrialized nation.

And guess who the major buyer of this oil is?

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Billabong
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quote:
Originally posted by George Smiley
Riiiight...so we are basing this theory that China wants to go to war with Russia on a Tom Clancy novel?


Well he wasnt using this book as a basis for the theory, just saying that a fictional book has documented what might happen.


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George Smiley
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Originally posted by Reverend_Trance
Amazon.com Synopsis

The above link goes to Amazon.com where it gives a description of the book. In the end, political and military pressure by the United States saves the day. (Naturally, it is a Tom Clancy novel, the US ALWAYS saves the day)

It has been awhile since I read the book. I was just trying to add to the random post that China will invade Russia. Maybe we are looking into some random post a bit too much. Personally from an economic standpoint, if China took oil-laden Siberia it would hurt the Russian economy. Russia is the world's largest exporter of oil outside of OPEC. The loss of oil until the Chinese redeveloped and rebuilt war-torn Siberia would take time. The Russian would not leave the oil wells intact would they? And the Chinese might keep the oil for themselves. In the short term, the price of oil would go up, rippling across the globe affecting any industrialized nation.

And guess who the major buyer of this oil is?

Sorry but you can't use a piece of fiction as proof that China wants to invade Russia! When I asked for a link it wasn't aimed at you but the person who started the thread. If your gonna start a thread with no evidence (ie it is your own idea) at least explain it! All he said was China to annex Russia or summat like that...

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George Smiley
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Well he wasnt using this book as a basis for the theory, just saying that a fictional book has documented what might happen.

A lot of books "document what might happen" in probably almost every possible scenario you can think of...!

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Reverend_Trance
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NOBODY got this?


I got it. Duh. You need Greece for lubricating.

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Billabong
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Originally posted by George Smiley
A lot of books "document what might happen" in probably almost every possible scenario you can think of...!


Yes, but you really didnt answer my question, that in the users original post he didnt say that he was basing his facts on the book.


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Shakka
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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
NOBODY got this?


I must hand it to you. That was some good wit!

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Reverend_Trance
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The key word is IF. I was using it as an EXAMPLE, IF China invaded Russia. Considering politics today, that is a pretty big IF.

My money is the People's Republic of China will more likely invade The Republic of China which we call Taiwan.

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