Timo Maas' style is definately hardtrance, when you want true Hardhouse, try finding livesets of Dave Randall and Yoji Biomechanika!!!! Than you know the true meaning of this style....

T-Rob

Tom Harding is HARDHOUSE

As far as I'm informed House is very much focus on grooves whereas trance is more focus on long build-ups and melody. Techno on the other hand mainly goes for characteristic rhythms and the "hard"-versions stems from "hardcore"-meaning that only hardcore fans seems to like it .
So I'd label something like Delerium as trance, Yves Deruyter as hard-house, Robbie Rivera as house, Stomper vs. Basscar as techno and Timo Maas as hard-trance.
And for Sandstorm...well, that one is just great.

But, generally it's increasingly difficult to put every artist into a labeled box. Take a listen to the special edition of Picotto's album and you'll find everything from chill-out to acid-trance (there's another label for you) and where would you put someone like Sasha?

Delerium Trance??? yeah right!!!!

Delerium's silence was remixed to be a trance song but Delerium is sooooo not trance!!!!! It's like Sarah McGlauchlan's I Love You song mixed by BT.. Sarah for sure doesn't do trance...

[This message has been edited by Dj Furee (edited 10-30-2000).]

lisa lashes---looking good!!!

I was thinking of the Tiesto remix. Sorry for any inconvenience, but I thought that was obvious from the context.

I'm sorry I didn't mean to be a bitch, it's just that I used to listen to delerium before they remixed silence which everyone really likes nowadays.. delerium is still cool tho, it's more ambient and experimental type of music.. I found it hard to believe that they became a trance "group" just cuz they got one song remixed, but hey you never know there maybe more to come

What is everyone talking about? you're mixing up everything with everything

If you want to know what a typical trance tune sounds like, listen to something by Tiesto, Johan Gielen, or something similar.

Hardhouse - Tom Harding, Lisa Lashes, Yoji Biomechanika

PS
Darude is definetly trance

PPS
I would call the sasha sound "progressive"

PPPS
And don't forget, not every song has to fit in 1 category...anybody ever heard of the word "crossover"?

PPPPS
I personally don't care what it's called, I just enjoy the music or I don't



------------------
I want a helmet. I want a cheese helmet. A helmet full of cheese.
I wanna pop it onto my head and just eat all day.

grab anything by Mark V and Poogie Bear

IF YOU WANT HARD HOUSE, TRY ANYTHING BY RICHARD (HUMPTY) VISSION OR BAD BOY BILL!!!

I've been reading this conversation for a while, and here's my $.02

Trance = stuff you find on trance nation cds, can range from vocal and melodic to stuff like timo maas (what would you call him? dark trance? tech trance?) And as ampburner said, stuff johan geilen, tiesto and so forth spin.

hard trance = same sound but harder

hard house = lisa lashes, bk, fergie, mauro picotto, cortina, etc.... NOT darude

IMHO richard humpty vission isn't hard house, at least not from what I've heard of him (Shut the F**k up and dance)
That sounds like a bunch of assorted vocal house and dubbed stuff, definitely different from the above producers.

As for progressive, excuse me if I'm wrong, but isn't most trance music by definition progressive?
(as in starts with 1-2 instruments and builds up, then has a break and climax, etc)