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George Smiley
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de·ceive ( P ) Pronunciation Key (d-sv)
v. de·ceived, de·ceiv·ing, de·ceives
v. tr.
1. To cause to believe what is not true; mislead.
2. Archaic. To catch by guile; ensnare.

v. intr.
To practice deceit.
To give a false impression: appearances can deceive.

[Middle English deceiven, from Old French deceveir, from Vulgar Latin *dcipre, from Latin dcipere, to ensnare, deceive : d-, de- + capere, to seize; see kap- in Indo-European Roots.]

crazy, huh?

What da hell are you talking about?!

I thought digiNut had come back to dazzle us with his amazing definitions for a second then!

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St_Andrew
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quote:
Originally posted by zig
Think its more interesting than offensive..i didnt figure it was monkeys till i read the text..there is a brazilian artist who is quite famous and hes doing this stuff for years ye know making pictures from unusual objects..but his stuff is amazing and on huge scale and can i remember his name no..is it offensive no


i didnt see what it was either at first... but i guess some people are just picky...

and yoepus, as kaffeemeister said, whats the difference between art and non art?

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quote:
Originally posted by St_Andrew
i didnt see what it was either at first... but i guess some people are just picky...


Mean either, I think this is a publicity ploy - I don't think anybody really cares.

quote:

and yoepus, as kaffeemeister said, whats the difference between art and non art?


What's the difference between nude art and porn?

You know it when I see it.


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St_Andrew
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quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
Mean either, I think this is a publicity ploy - I don't think anybody really cares.


you might be right...

quote:
What's the difference between nude art and porn?

You know it when I see it.


well, i dont think everyone in the world would agree with you... just because you dont think anything is art, it might mean someone else think its art and vice versa....

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Originally posted by St_Andrew
you might be right...


Might be?! I'm always right!


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well, i dont think everyone in the world would agree with you... just because you dont think anything is art, it might mean someone else think its art and vice versa....


I meant you know it when you see. Not when I see it, that was a typo.

The US Supreme Court has a community test though to judge what is art and what is not. If a certain X ppl in a community think the work is art, its art, if a certain X ppl in the community don't think its art, its not.

I think the soceity test is a good way to indeed determine such things.


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Art is VERY subjective.

For example most people wouldn't think that this following work from Marcel Duchamp "Bicycle Wheel" is art but it is one of his most famous pieces.



Even me, as an art major in college, if I didn't know that Marcel Duchamp created the work and realized his statements in his early 1900 exhibition work then I would be like "why the hell is there a bicycle wheel in a stool?".

I think that work is obvious as art because it is using a medium to express a statement which would classify it as art.


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But Dechamps had a purpose of bringing new concepts (and questions) to art, which have already been worked on.

I agree with you that art is very subjective, but there's a difference between being a genious and being a derivative mediocre.

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Originally posted by zig
Think its more interesting than offensive..i didnt figure it was monkeys till i read the text..there is a brazilian artist who is quite famous and hes doing this stuff for years ye know making pictures from unusual objects..but his stuff is amazing and on huge scale and can i remember his name no..is it offensive no

I wish I could remember his name... his works are indeed amazing


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didn't they have a portrait of jesus made with poo a couple of years ago??? and that was allowed to stay?

Jesus>Bush

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I know there was a exhibition of the piss christ which was made out of urine (or a urine like substance). It is pretty famous but is in most of the newer art books.


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St_Andrew
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quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
I meant you know it when you see. Not when I see it, that was a typo.

The US Supreme Court has a community test though to judge what is art and what is not. If a certain X ppl in a community think the work is art, its art, if a certain X ppl in the community don't think its art, its not.

I think the soceity test is a good way to indeed determine such things.


i guess you are right. most people would think this is art tho. most people would think that thing in stockholm was art too

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