6.3% pa is correct, even on the m3ds. i dont know about the m3ds but generally on technics the autoresturn is there, it happened to me making a mix tape at my friends, it lifted off at the end of atlantis ita - the good land just as the mix was building in the direction of gouryella - walhalla sounding really bad. about the skipping, it definately does help, and about wearing out records, as far as i know it doesnt make a difference, its the weight of the tone-arm, the cartridges and the stylus that make a difference. hip-hop djs prefer the vestax because of the skipping reduction. and im talking about the pdx2000, (see vestax website http://www.vestax.co.uk/flash/pdx2000.htm). im sure vestax will stand up to the test of time, and im not trying to tell people technics are shit, because they are gr8, and 90% of clubs use them, although vestax have a growing larger section of the market, even though they are slightly more expensive. i just suggest you try both before you buy.

hmm...

so technics has been lying to hundreds of thousands of DJs for 20 years that the pitch control is 8% when it's really 6.3%?

I'm finding that tough to swallow.

I will definitely try out the Vestax before I buy my tech12s.

I tried out some Stanton STR8-80s before, didn't like em, not enough power. it was cool that they spun backwards though, I wish techs did that. I've heard that the STR8-100s have more power than tech12s, and pitch control up to 25%

SL1200 MKII will not have the problems like boy_luke_y2k had when you buy the right element/stylus.
I first had Stanton 500 which is cheap and okay but since I have the 680 I know it makes a big difference.

Straight tonearms are primarily for scratching..now vestax also has another new decks out(not the PDX2000) that has a curved tonearm(better fro trance) the other one is the pdx-8000 Its supposed to be nicer...but I dunno, ill stick with Technics. Vestax can still make my mixer, but not my tables.

Tho if this werent blazing red it might be less of an eyesore

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About the carts/stylus, I had Orfoton Concordes Blue, with Elliptical stylus, I did have technics, I like them, they are proven workhorses but there is less control than the Vestax and I am happy I made the switch, I haven't seen the PDX8000 but they sound okay. I just stick to my point of try before you buy. Don't let rumours and reputation influence your decision too much. I had the Technics for about a month and got an upgrade by selling my roland mixer and getting complete Vestax system.

BTW if u wanna check out teh PDX 8000 the only place ive found it is www.HTFR.com It costs like 800 Pounds tho...so

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Originally posted by j_spot BTW if u wanna check out teh PDX 8000 the only place ive found it is www.HTFR.com It costs like 800 Pounds tho...so

Silly me, I've seen these before, I got the catalogue, and they look very nice decks, £850 a piece though, its a bit steep. I think the red puts you off more than anything else, I'm happy with mine.

WOW!!!
that PDX8000 is pretty ugly (the color) but other then that, i wouldn't mind having one...
i was considering to buy technics(still am) in the next 5 months...
i still think i'll go for them, maybe any where else in the world the diference (in the price) isn't that much...
but here in Israel as far as i know the prices are in the sky!!!
so i'll either find some kinda cheap good technics (vestax are also welcome) or i'll import...

i'm a newbe to this stuff (TTs) so where should i start?

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Thanx heaps boy luke. This will com ein handy when i goto buy mine

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Originally posted by DjTS-NeXiLe Thanx heaps boy luke. This will com ein handy when i goto buy mine

Thanks DjTS-NeXiLe, its just my opinion and a few facts of course, I just suggest you try before you buy, as I've had both TT's I do suggest Vestax though.

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Originally posted by RavingLunatic hmm... so technics has been lying to hundreds of thousands of DJs for 20 years that the pitch control is 8% when it's really 6.3%? I'm finding that tough to swallow. I will definitely try out the Vestax before I buy my tech12s. I tried out some Stanton STR8-80s before, didn't like em, not enough power. it was cool that they spun backwards though, I wish techs did that. I've heard that the STR8-100s have more power than tech12s, and pitch control up to 25%

The ST100's more powerful than tech12's? Hmmm...anybody else heard this one?

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