djm500 is decent. no kills. no punch buttons. the mixer itself is solid. SOLID. the channel faders have this lovely resistance to them that makes thwacking them really statisfying. the EQs can almost kill sound completely but its very rough. the effects...well. you'll have fun with them if you've never played on really decent outboard effects. they are pretty basic. i would say cheap but if you've never heard a TC fireworx or a lexi reverb unit then i dont suppose you'll care.

ecler smac pro30 looked decent and my mate was either gonna for that or the djm500. he ended up with the djm500 but the ecler looked nice. 3 channels. kills, punches, 3 band EQ. its really compact aswell. i take it the nuo is like, the bigger brother of the smac then?

how are you going to turn away 4 channel mixers when you said yourself you are looking at the djm500? You might not need one today, but as soon as you say that, tomarrow will bring a need for it.

Personally, I think the Nuo and the SMAC series Eclers eat the Pioneer's lunch. The mixer I use (Tascam XS-8) is basically an Ecler HAK 320 with a and its incredible. If you take off the faceplace and pull out the faders they say Ecler Pro Audio and if you look at the sticker it says made in the EU. Its great and I got it at Guitar Center for $150.

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ill be honest -hadnt heard of ecler equipment until today. i see no need for a 4 channel mixer but as you said there may come a day....
but am i right in thinking a 2 channel mixer can have 2cdj's and 2decks linked up to them anyway using theline and phono output?im pretty sure that the pioneer909 would be good for breakbeat. perhaps i should just go for a cheaper mixer if all im worried about is construction and kills/decent eq's?

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909 is great.

Go with it.

will i get a lot out of it considering i mix breaks tho?and i dont scratch?is it worth me paying all that for it

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dont limit yourself. you may not be doing someting today, but could very well take an interrest in it tomarrow. Also, your best way for this would be to try out the mixers, goto a store that has these and see what you think of them.

Personally, I have a Nuo5 and it does blow away the Pioneer 500/600's.. but I made my decision based on what I do now and what I could do in the future.

Personal preference for how you want to mix ur breaks...if you wanna cut/scratch alot then a battle mixer might just do it for ya - or at least a mixer with has an adjustable fader.. There ain't no set rule or anything, when i saw Soul of Man last month they were usin a Xone:62 or 92 (can't remember which one exactly) and still tore the place up!

a very valid point. i remember how long it took me to decide which to buy last time - bought a xone32 - thing was broken within 2 months - poorly made believe it or not and id ended up using little of its features-ever!

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i would definitely look at the nuo5 seriously. forget the fact that it's 4 channels (although obviously its a lot less limiting than a 2 channel mixer, as you can mess about more and take your mixing further), and look at the features. the effects are mint, and customisable via USB PC link, while the faders are digital and nearly unbreakable.

yes, the 909 is great, but i wouldnt like being limited by only 2 channels.

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dont limit yourself. you may not be doing someting today, but could very well take an interrest in it tomarrow. Also, your best way for this would be to try out the mixers, goto a store that has these and see what you think of them.

emphasis on this. its worth stretching a bit further to get something you know you will use for years to come, even if you dont immediately have a use for all the features at the time of purchase. you also need to like the feel of what you are buying cuz you will be using it for a long time.

i have had a track record of buying stuff, then having to sell it on because i suddenly realised it couldnt do something i really needed it to do. my delta 1010? doesnt have any preamps (what was i thinking?! im a guitarist for christ's sake!), didnt research into m-audio's ASIO drivers very well and consequently i get MIDI sync issues with my virus which i purchased recently. im planning on selling the 1010 on only 4 months after i bought it. so in my room i have a guitar which i cant amp. a virus which doesnt sync properly with my host and a soundcard that i really dont want anymore. save yourself the hassle and just put off a purchase for a little while and keep on the research. work some extra hours and go the extra mile if you can - its the best chance you've got of getting a peice of kit you'll be really damn straight up happy with. and thats pretty important right?

EDIT: my friend with the djm500, hes now looking into getting an electribe to do a little bit of live remixing and also keep open the possibility of adding a cd deck at some point because then we could work on drum loops, dj tools, sfx in my studio setup and expand the live remix idea. the extra channels on the djm allows him to do that. right now i bet hes chuffed he went with the djm 500 for this very reason. it also makesyour original purchase so much sweeter when you ask yourself a year down the line, 'can i do this?' only to read the manual and find that you are covered. great feeling.

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so perhaps i should just stick with my xone32 if u think i may use the 4 channels at some point. i do think the transmute buttons are unneeded though. and the filter effects.buying a new mixer is very stressful!

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