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NYGblue
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Old Post Dec-30-2004 01:37  Dominican Republic
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imokruok
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Location: Berkeley. That explains it.

Nice job, Shakka. I was going to say "eat **** and die, you ************* *******," but your response was better measured.

p.s. Until today, France had only given $104,000. Nice job there, Jack.


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Originally posted by tathi
America is the third highest contributor of aid behind Australian and then Japan. $35 million is not enough but it is a heck of alot more than what other countries have contributed.


Spain is tops so far I believe with 60 odd million.

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NYGblue
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Who cares what France has done, we are talking about the US and whats right is right. I can't believe you guys are actually making the arguments you are making. It must be nice to sit in your comfy computer chair while millions of people are suffering from disease and a lack of food in a region that saw as much if not more than 100,000 deaths. Americans just don't fucking get it and never will until a huge catastrophe strikes.

Again everyone should contribute a little bit to these people. And if you are one of those that is saying we shouldn't ask the government to send more aid and aren't even contributing out of your own wallet then you are not only heartless fuck but a moron too. No suprise coming from a bunch of Tranceaddicts though.


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quote:
Originally posted by NYGblue
Who cares what France has done, we are talking about the US and whats right is right. I can't believe you guys are actually making the arguments you are making. It must be nice to sit in your comfy computer chair while millions of people are suffering from disease and a lack of food in a region that saw as much if not more than 100,000 deaths. Americans just don't fucking get it and never will until a huge catastrophe strikes.

Again everyone should contribute a little bit to these people. And if you are one of those that is saying we shouldn't ask the government to send more aid and aren't even contributing out of your own wallet then you are not only heartless fuck but a moron too. No suprise coming from a bunch of Tranceaddicts though.


Are you on crack? Nobody is making the argument that the world shouldn't collect more aid for disaster relief. The argument that Mensa presented was that the US was only sending $35 million. The argument everyone is making is that these are initial donations until a better idea of what is needed is grasped. Powell has already indicated that total aid from the US will be in the billions. To further bolster this point, we can reference other countries that are initially sending small amounts like the EU , Japan, France, the UK, etc., until they understand what is needed as well. Where you arrive at your baseless generalizations I have no idea. Typical tranceaddict though ... whatever that's supposed to mean .


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zig
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What they need now is military aid because the disaster is on a huge scale..

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military logistics..the scale of the area is massive..you need armys ..navys to deliver the aid

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What they need now is military aid because the disaster is on a huge scale..


A bunch other countries are sending in military forces to help in the aid effort but I don't know the details. The US is sending in a carrier battle group along with 6 other navy ships. I heard on NPR that these ships have mobile feild hospitals plus fresh water generators which will be the most critical need in warding off disease.

http://www.fcw.com/fcw/articles/200...et-12-28-04.asp


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The americans are in there..and doing good work..from what i hear..

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NYGblue
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quote:
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Are you on crack? Nobody is making the argument that the world shouldn't collect more aid for disaster relief. The argument that Mensa presented was that the US was only sending $35 million. The argument everyone is making is that these are initial donations until a better idea of what is needed is grasped. Powell has already indicated that total aid from the US will be in the billions. To further bolster this point, we can reference other countries that are initially sending small amounts like the EU , Japan, France, the UK, etc., until they understand what is needed as well. Where you arrive at your baseless generalizations I have no idea. Typical tranceaddict though ... whatever that's supposed to mean .


Underlying sentiments are obvious, what you are stating is an argument I have already gone over with other people. Reading the posts here certain people sound like they aren't really interested in aid giving. "The US shouldn't be responsible to be the world's aid giver". Those types of things.


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quote:
Originally posted by NYGblue
Underlying sentiments are obvious, what you are stating is an argument I have already gone over with other people. Reading the posts here certain people sound like they aren't really interested in aid giving. "The US shouldn't be responsible to be the world's aid giver". Those types of things.


And the US shouldn't be the world's sole aid giver. It should be a world effort as we see happening here. The criticism in this thread was directed at Mensa who saw fit to isolate out the US's contributions and go over it with a fine tooth comb with criticisms he appears to be unwilling to apply to nearly every other nation that is responding to this crisis.


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quote:
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And the US shouldn't be the world's sole aid giver. It should be a world effort as we see happening here. The criticism in this thread was directed at Mensa who saw fit to isolate out the US's contributions and go over it with a fine tooth comb with criticisms he appears to be unwilling to apply to nearly every other nation that is responding to this crisis.


Oh i'm not saying the US should be the worlds aid givers. Hell liberatarians I have talked to say they don't think the US govt. should be giving ANY aid, personally I think its ridiculous. I just feel that from reading that a couple of people are insinuating something. Quite frankly I hope I am wrong.

Personally I don't think we should criticize Bush... yet. I know that USAID is over there with a lot of people conducting surveys of the damage to assess how to best fund the relief aid.

Personally I am donating to Red Cross because I am very concerned about medical supplies arriving to the region. Thats all I have to say on this topic.


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Old Post Dec-30-2004 03:12  Dominican Republic
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