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Fir3start3r
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Location: Toronto, ON, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
Stop with the bullshit explanation. Your question was simple and implied.


Only by you...
I have no personal feelings about the subject at all; I was simply playing devil's advocate.
We all know what your feelings are...
/obvious


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zig
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Registered: Dec 2004
Location: Dublin,Ireland

quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
Stop with the bullshit explanation. Your question was simple and implied.


I didnt get that impression either..as you can see from my post..if anything it made me think..i wouldnt get to upset about it..i dont think its what he implied it was purely a theorethical response..and it worked for me anyway...

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Dervish
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This arab - jew (sorted alphabeticly so not to offend anyone....) stuff is getting a bit sad. Just now its got to the point where someone can even voice an opion with out the "debate" quickly turning to personal attacks.

I say the guys who did this should be saluted for thinking about what they were doing, making a stand, and creating an issue.

It is a posative thing because it's the right thing to do. But as someone said you don't see anything similar from the other side. However I think your feeling of security needs to get to a certain level before you can consider things other than your own personal security and that of your family.


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Re: nice quote!

quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X
Had the British won, our founding fathers would all have been convicted of high treason!


I sincerely doubt that they fought for our independence just so that the later generations could grow to be subservient.


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Originally posted by Our founding fathers
IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world....


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