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Ory
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Stockholm

quote:
Originally posted by swisstoni_uk
Is that including vocals? a significant amount of dubs have vocals removed, your definition doesnt mention vocals unless your including this under "no high notes or pitches"


Vocals = usually high frequencies.


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RIPassion
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quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
It's higher frequencies. Why do people always insist on some abstract definition of this? A dub is a track with no high notes or pitches left in it. Simple as.


Great job trying to formulize, but the word only holds true to the definitions people give it. Last time I checked, the rank 1's dub of symsonic had higher frequencies than the original.

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Nsonic
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Registered: Jul 2004
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i thought a remix was a production by another artist using samples from the original

remake = cover?
rework would be a rearrangement?

an edit is usually done for songs that need to be shortened for radio or a video (radio edit, video edit)
but im pretty sure ive seen [video dub] somewhere

and theres also
-extended version
-album version/edit

whats a re-rub?


oh, and speccfically,
whats the difference between a
-main mix
-club mix/edit
-vocal edit
-original mix/version

i see those a lot, so theres gotta be a definition for each.
original, obviously the original
vocal, added vocals?
club, less vocals, more continuous beat?
...

oh, and sme artists go under an alias to make songs then remix it using their original name
e.g
Saltwater - The Legacy (Alphazone remix)
saltwater and alphazone are the same people
..fancy bastards



EDIT> wtf... 4 posts while i typed that

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Adee
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Registered: Sep 2004
Location: Bucharest

randy katana - in silence (txitxarro mix) - anohter example of remix by the same artist *another case of mix=remix*. I think they love the alias part, trance has the most alias`d artists in the hole edm.


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woscar
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Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Guatemala, Guatemala
Dub

I thought a dub was a song without vocals.

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Cobalt
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Vancouver, BC

A dub has two overlapping definitions. The first is a partial or total removal of vocals from a vocal original, the second is a deeper take on the original which, yes, usually has higher frequencies stripped away.

A track that lacks vocals of the original, with no other differences, can be properly called either an instrumental or a dub, though the former is more appropriate. A remix or mix of a track that focuses on a lower, deeper sound is also a dub. But what you will never, ever find, though, is a dub with more vocals than the original.

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Icesotope
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Registered: Sep 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by Subtle
fucking hate the words remake and re-work.. artist trying to sound original in there names using these ridicolus name on a track..



Same goes to reconstruction.


I don't like Bootlegs and Whitelabels too

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Mike_Foyle
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Leicester, UK

quote:
Originally posted by Ory
Meh. Sometimes it's printed "mix", sometimes "remix".


same thing


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woscar
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Registered: Nov 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by Icesotope
Same goes to reconstruction.


I don't like Bootlegs and Whitelabels too


What are those? I've heard them several times before but I don't knw what they are.

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Mike_Foyle
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Registered: Mar 2004
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as far as im concerned a dub is a mix without vocals.. not a mix without high freuqnecies :S

remake, usually a modernised and completely reproduced version of a track. basically a remix but usually using no original audio parts (although often they probably do..)

edit: anything that involves changing the structure of a track to suit different needs, be it chopping the track up in an audio sequencer, or shuffling it all about as midi. basically same sounds, different structure.

re-work, i would say this is a producers attempt to make a better version of another producers track without changing the style too much. for example, luana, is f&ps rework of my original track, entangler! its pretty much the same style and similar sounds, just much better quality and a nicer structure.

like i said as far as im concerned a mix and remix mean the same thing, i dont know if they actually do or not but if so, i dont think anyone really knows what the difference is lol. ive been calling my remixes of tracks "mixes" and visa versa?!?!

so ... thats what i think!


to be honest it doesnt really matter! lol they are all pretty much the same thing


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Mike_Foyle
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Leicester, UK

quote:
Originally posted by woscar99
What are those? I've heard them several times before but I don't knw what they are.


a bootleg is an unliscenced remix or mashup. a whitelabel is the name given to a limited-edition, test, or promotional CD or Vinyl (usaully with a white label on it!)


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Adee
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Registered: Sep 2004
Location: Bucharest

quote:
Originally posted by Mike_Foyle
as far as im concerned a dub is a mix without vocals.. not a mix without high freuqnecies :S


nope your wrong take this example e-craig-the beat goes on (e-craig hard dub) it has vocals


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