Dude, dont get a bpm counter those have to be the worst things ever. If you learn from the start you will be much better.

If your beats slowly mismatch then obviously the speeds are not equal, just play with the pitch a bit more. Tapping the vinyl to get the beats back on track together after the pitch has been adjusted has been my own personal technique that has worked for me.

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Originally posted by Boomer187 ya just gotta konw when the beats split, then fix it so no one notices. simple ass that.

What do you mean 'when the beats split' ? you mean when the start to drift?

Yeah, the same way u can tell when two beats are not beatmatched, the better you'll be at that the more you practice.

They are so good that they can hear the beats drifting even though you(the listener) don't realise it.

It also helps to know your tunes, and the sounds in them, that way you can tell whether they are going out of sync with ease as well.

hope that helps!

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Beat counters are not the answer! You must train you ears to listen to the beats, everyone goes through this stage, it's hard but trust me once you've come over the hurdle and it starts to click.. you will be very happy. Hard work pays off!

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I just started spinning not too long ago, and because of the difficulty of beatmatching, i wanted to get a pioneer djm500 since it came with it. Anyways, didn't save the money and im practicing with a janky numark mixer, but its coming together. my girlfriend who listens to me spin says i get better and better everytime.

granted im still beatmatching through the headphones instead of the moniters, but i figure i should get it down to where i can throw any two records and beat match them no problem...then start trying to do the whole one ear on headphones, and one without.

anyways...im greatful that i didn't get a mixer with a bpm counter since im actually learning this shit, and it makes beatmatching a challenge i can say ive conquered

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Originally posted by Synbios Dude, dont get a bpm counter those have to be the worst things ever. If you learn from the start you will be much better. If your beats slowly mismatch then obviously the speeds are not equal, just play with the pitch a bit more. Tapping the vinyl to get the beats back on track together after the pitch has been adjusted has been my own personal technique that has worked for me.

that sounds interesting enlghten me. how do you do it?

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speaking about beatcounters, everyone is right do not get one,
i personally have a rough bpm written on my records just so i know if they will go together but thats it, i dont use it and calculate how much pitch is needed to match the records or anything i just find it helps when throwing togther a set. my advice would be bpm (roughly) your records and practice for hours on end and one day it will just 'click' and you will jump up and down with joy like i did, lol

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Go there....

The simple truth about beatmatching is this...

A lot of young DJs start out and fall at the first hurdle because they don't really know what they are doing and there is no one around to explain the 'rules' (A term I use lightly) to them such as phrase matching etc...

I don't know how many times I have read the statement 'I've got beatmatching down pretty good, now what is there to do?' on this forum. Yet if you listen to a lot of mixes from younger DJs of this opinion you will hear that the mixes are often rough and have corrections a plenty.
Nothing wrong in that per se but it's as much to do with training your ear as training your skill with the pitch sliders.

I have heard many of those DJs come back to a mix that they were really prooud of and hear loads of mistakes in it simply because their skill has moved on and they hear things differently.

In truth I would say that to truly become profficient at beatmatching for most people will take anywhere between 3 to 5 years of pretty constant practice. And I know with that statement there will be those of you who think that you did it quicker but if you record yourself now and then a year or two later my point will most likely be made.

Beatmatching is the core skill of dance music DJing and needs to be kept well oiled. Make sure you dedicate time to practice regardless of the method you use i.e. pitch riding (my prefered) or touching the platter.

The truth about beat counters
They are not entirely pointless but do not provide any real use in the process of teaching anyone how to beat match.
They do however prove useful if you work with effects or you are sampling sections to use in other tracks etc.

From a DJing perspective they will help you get into the right area. But you should know your records well enough to know that anyway.

Cheers
Nem

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 The simple truth about beatmatching is this... A lot of young DJs start out and fall at the first hurdle because they don't really know what they are doing and there is no one around to explain the 'rules' (A term I use lightly) to them such as phrase matching etc... I don't know how many times I have read the statement 'I've got beatmatching down pretty good, now what is there to do?' on this forum. Yet if you listen to a lot of mixes from younger DJs of this opinion you will hear that the mixes are often rough and have corrections a plenty. Nothing wrong in that per se but it's as much to do with training your ear as training your skill with the pitch sliders. I have heard many of those DJs come back to a mix that they were really prooud of and hear loads of mistakes in it simply because their skill has moved on and they hear things differently. In truth I would say that to truly become profficient at beatmatching for most people will take anywhere between 3 to 5 years of pretty constant practice. And I know with that statement there will be those of you who think that you did it quicker but if you record yourself now and then a year or two later my point will most likely be made. Beatmatching is the core skill of dance music DJing and needs to be kept well oiled. Make sure you dedicate time to practice regardless of the method you use i.e. pitch riding (my prefered) or touching the platter. The truth about beat counters They are not entirely pointless but do not provide any real use in the process of teaching anyone how to beat match. They do however prove useful if you work with effects or you are sampling sections to use in other tracks etc. From a DJing perspective they will help you get into the right area. But you should know your records well enough to know that anyway. Cheers Nem

Pure wisdom, as usual.

How i learnt to mix was to record my self play ,
and then listen to my set again to hear wear i made my mistakes
eventaully try to be able to record 1hr flawless sets then 2hr
well worked for me anyway
good luck
also another tip, to learn your music, play at alot slower tempo than
your usto ,found that help full to