Well.. taking too much will kill you as well.

I don't understand these people who go and take 5 Es in one night, I mean what's the point? I have only ever taken one at a time, usually just half, specially if it is good stuff..

as for mixing chemicals.. well, "ecstasy" by definition is a mix of several chemicals, MDMA is what you want, there is MDA, MDEA, MDB, crystal meth(evil stuff), speed, all sorts of shit in typical ecstasy pills. a pressed pill of E can NEVER be pure mdma, it wouldn't hold together. gelcaps can though, a nice fat gelcap of pure MDMA is a one way trip to heaven if you ask me.

but in any case, people die from bad E, too much E, not enough water, too much water, overheating, exhaustion, various reasons.. you just gotta look out for yourself.

and I agree there were probably people getting fucked up on opium and seeing mozart, probably absinth and nitrous oxide too.

nitrous oxide used to be a very popular drug in the 1920's

I think it was 2 years ago a guy died at a rave from E and drinking booze. hmmm. no wonder.

well see another bad thing about taking more that 2 E in one night is how ecstasy works. MDMA simply floods your brain with serotonin. realizing this, you only have so much serotonin in your glands, and you also 'get used' to the large amount of it after awhile. if you are taking something with lots of other shit in it, esp meth, you may feel more fucked up with more pills, but then its not even E anymore.

on mixing drugs, i realize E is ofter a mixture of alot of things, but in small amounts, or relatively so. if you would go around rolling, drinking, smoking and even added one more other serious drug in dosage amounts, meth, heroin, coke, it would most likely kill you or at the least cause some severe brain damage.

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Originally posted by RavingLunatic I don't understand these people who go and take 5 Es in one night, I mean what's the point? I have only ever taken one at a time, usually just half, specially if it is good stuff.. as for mixing chemicals.. well, "ecstasy" by definition is a mix of several chemicals, MDMA is what you want, there is MDA, MDEA, MDB, crystal meth(evil stuff), speed, all sorts of shit in typical ecstasy pills. a pressed pill of E can NEVER be pure mdma, it wouldn't hold together. gelcaps can though, a nice fat gelcap of pure MDMA is a one way trip to heaven if you ask me.

agreed bro.
shit happens....I wish people were smarter....cause it normally happens to the ones who don't think.

l8ta

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Raves=drugs. there's no way around it. Saying that it isn't that way is like trying to tell your mom you ate all the potatoes when you were younger but you had them stuffed in your sock. Although You may as a user be through with drugs there will always be mad drug content at raves. Lie to your parents and the naive. keep it real with those that understand.

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Yes this is sad, especially close to home. The E probably wasn't E at all. In Europe 10000+ pills are consumed weekly and the average death rate is 3-4 a year. So 2 in 1 night is pretty suspicious. Even the police think it's pills passed off as ectasy and are asking anyone who bought pills that night to had them in to a pharmacy for testing. So the party scene in Vancouver will be affected by this and might end up becoming illegal again.

My condolences to the friends and family of the victims

Trance moves your mind,House moves your soul ?????????

what is this nonsense.

no offense (b boogie)

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Originally posted by B-Boogie Raves=drugs. there's no way around it. Saying that it isn't that way is like trying to tell your mom you ate all the potatoes when you were younger but you had them stuffed in your sock. Although You may as a user be through with drugs there will always be mad drug content at raves. Lie to your parents and the naive. keep it real with those that understand.

Not for everybody. I have been to 10+ raves this year and I have only dropped twice. I don't go to get stoned I go to listen to music. But your right about one thing, at least 95 percent of the people do E at raves. But I love music alot more than drugs.

As usual, we can always count on the media for it's most unbiased views of the rave culture! NOT! It's a bunch of bollocks to the tenth power!

Which reminds me, because of the ignorance here in my hometown, we have the rave bylaw. The only purpose it serves is to severely deterred the parties from happening..

KtP

first of all, i'd like to say that it really sux people died at this party ...

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Originally posted by sothis yes, this is definitely sad.. but anyone who parties in vancouver i am betting would say the same thing, that this really isnt surprising. if you want proof, just go to a massive there yourself (and im only talking about the massives)... and youll see what i mean. so yes.. this is always sad to hear, but im really, really, really not surprised it happened, especially at a massive in vancouver. just like it wasn't surprising when a kid got stabbed at stargate earlier this year due to gang shit.

do we have a bad reputation or something? why aren't you surprised? this is not a regular occurance at our parties.

i was surprised to hear that 2 people died at spooky, and also when the guy got stabbed at stargate, i was there!!!

Your right Insom, I don't think we have a bad rep. I was totally shocked to hear 2 people died. The Stargate and Spooky incidents were the only things that I have heard of. Just 2 isolated incidents.

Sothis, you make Vancouver sound huge but it really isn't. Our biggest indoor raves are from 3500-5000. That really isn't alot of people.