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Originally posted by dallastar yeah that's basically a GOOD summary! thanks for reading! what i got out of doing a bit of K is that woman and men can become infertile!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is VERY bad! if you wanna have babies inthe future DON'T do K!!! and E just screws with your spinal tap fluids and that's jus' gross.. ok time to head to the Gym! cheerio~!

ok i'm a pharmacologist, and i'm pretty, if not absolutely sure, that what you have said is bollocks.

Ketamine is a phenylethylamine, and we only have receptors for that in the brain, there's nothing like that in our reproductive system. The only possible link from MDMA and infertility is due to it increasing body temperature, but it is not prolonged enough to cause substantial infertility (this is not from a research paper, but common sense...for example, you don't get infertile from getting lots of flu/fever/cold illnessess) MDMA does nothing to your spine lol. The reason that people "thought" that MDMA did something to your spine is explained on ecstasy.org and its something to do with people on a research project having spinal injections, and people thought that it went into your spinal fluid.

Or something

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Originally posted by dj_mdma Ketamine is a phenylethylamine, and we only have receptors for that in the brain, there's nothing like that in our reproductive system.

Ketamine is a benzyl amine, it's missing a carbon from the phenethylamine chain...

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Originally posted by Masonious you win again dude - and nice move shoving the whole i figured out how to order pizza thing in my face. i tried that 4 and a half months ago and woke up with a Taiwanese transvestite but to Ygrene it's just, "anoother day in the life, noooo biggieee".

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Originally posted by Lephaid Ketamine is a benzyl amine, it's missing a carbon from the phenethylamine chain...

either way, its not affecting people's fertility

iirc, they sometimes use ketamine in paediatric medicine as an pre anaesthetic thingy because children recover quickly off it, as oppposed to adults

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i really appriciate all the advice and information~ thanks DJ mdma - or shoudl i say ~~ Dr. MDMA!!

i am really happy to know now that I will be able to have babies (mini-me's)

xoxox

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