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Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk:: russia has always been poor, what are u talking about?? under communism, everything was run by the government. u got a low income, and the quality of products u could buy was very low, because there was no competition between companies. now, under authoritative democracy as i call it, many things have improved, there is competition now, and freedom of speech except for some parts which forbid the use of curse words. As for the militaries of all the world, which most times is not needed. all the militaries are building. for what? it is for the end of the world. crazy as i may sound, its prophesied. all the militaries of the world are building and building, countries are researching nucleur weapons, and building still more. eventually, the steam must blow. and it will. 6You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various [various meaning in more than one] places. 8All these are the beginning of birth pains.

And what else does Matthew have to say on the current political climate in the Russian Federation?

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Originally posted by George Smiley And what else does Matthew have to say on the current political climate in the Russian Federation?

Judging from your avatar...are you a commie lover?

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The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all change to silver glass...and then you see it...
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Originally posted by Fir3start3r Judging from your avatar...are you a commie lover?

Are you?

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Originally posted by George Smiley And what else does Matthew have to say on the current political climate in the Russian Federation?

really, mathew describes the political climate of the entire world, russia included. i sense some sarcacism, do u not agree with what is said in this passage?

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Originally posted by George Smiley Are you?

LoL!
Just like a Liberal to change the subject and not answer the question...
but then...you did answer it...

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"...End? No, the journey doesn't end here. Death is just another path...one that we all must take.
The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all change to silver glass...and then you see it...
...white shores...and beyond...the far green country under a swift sunrise."

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Originally posted by Lira Пролетарии всех стран, соединяйтесь! Seriously now, stop that already. Every week both USSR and acid techno are supposed to come back. But nothing changes, nothing! Maybe that's because there's too much expectation that spoils the surprise factor. Electro was forgotten, then came back from the ashes. Bush was forgotten, then his son came back from the ashes. Please forget acid techno, USSR and Bush. Then one day, Chris Liberator will become the world's #1 DJ fighting capitalist pigs and the president of the United States will be this really fit girl with a twin sister.

Maaz, with all your Russian skillz, I'm surprised you haven't been recruited by the "Los Federales" or whatever the secret agency your country has.

BTW, S proshedshim dnem rozhdeniya. Certain circumstances prevented me from congratulating you with all due sincerity and on time.

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Originally posted by Sunquest Does anyone else think melodic trance is dying?

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Originally posted by Swamper Trance is dead. All the people listening to it now are dead too. Registered Ghosts: 43,900 217,667 threads in total | 3,722,184 posts in total Currently Active Dead Users: 608

ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r LoL! Just like a Liberal to change the subject and not answer the question... but then...you did answer it...

Er no...dont think I did answer it...

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Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk:: really, mathew describes the political climate of the entire world, russia included. i sense some sarcacism, do u not agree with what is said in this passage?

Hmmm...saying wars will happen aint all that a difficult conclusion to come to...the rest of what he said in that passage remains, however, bullshit...

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Originally posted by George Smiley Hmmm...saying wars will happen aint all that a difficult conclusion to come to...the rest of what he said in that passage remains, however, bullshit...

hmm, i guess we dont hear of conflict every single day in the news, there arent more frequent earthquakes happening, and natural disasters, ehh, no famines going on in africa.

a little interesting thing about the earthquakes going on.

worldwide. the last 4 years, there have been about 8,000 more earthquakes in 2004 than in 2000, and every year in between, a steady growth. there were 4,000 more earthquakes in 1999 than in 1990. there were 13,562 more earthquakes in 2004 than in 1990im not saying this is a fulfillment of a prophecy, but there is the possibility. .http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/eqlists/eqstats.html

where and when do u think all these nucleur weapons everyone's developing and stockpiling are going to be used and how. world events are building up to the climax.

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Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk:: hmm, i guess we dont hear of conflict every single day in the news, there arent more frequent earthquakes happening, and natural disasters, ehh, no famines going on in africa. a little interesting thing about the earthquakes going on. worldwide. the last 4 years, there have been about 8,000 more earthquakes in 2004 than in 2000, and every year in between, a steady growth. there were 4,000 more earthquakes in 1999 than in 1990. there were 13,562 more earthquakes in 2004 than in 1990im not saying this is a fulfillment of a prophecy, but there is the possibility. .http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/eqlists/eqstats.html where and when do u think all these nucleur weapons everyone's developing and stockpiling are going to be used and how. world events are building up to the climax.

You know, you should seriously consider reading some books, journal articles, etc, instead of basing your world views on the Rapture Index (http://www.raptureready.com/rap2.html )!!!!!

Your telling me that the guy in the Bible, Mark, is talking about the modern world? And all of a sudden he's an expert geologist too to boot?!

About nuclear weapons "everyone" is stockpiling...when do I think they will be used and where? The question you should ask is who will use them and who against...and I can't see many takers

India and Pakistan both have nukes, both hate each other. Both have refrained from using nukes on each other despite wars faught between them. The US' missile defence will cause China to increase it's nukes (which is funny as the missile defence does not work and will not for the forseeable future despite the MDA claiming they can protect against ballistic missiles!) which in turn will decrease American security and threaten India (which I believe is where China's missiles are aimed) - maybe there is a source of nuclear conflict?? Who else? Israel, Iran or North Korea? Probably out of those Israel is the most likely to use them, they dont care much for their neighbours (not that its neighbours care much for Israel either) and any future conflict in the Middle East may see Israel use nukes. North Korea cannot reach the US with nukes, so if America attacked Pyongyang, then it would be South Korea and Japan that would face the threat of North Korean nukes. As for Iran, they dont have nukes, will probably be forced to give their nuclear program up, and even if they did have nukes, could threaten only Israel (not America)

So in summary...

India vs Pakistan
China vs India
Israel vs Iran
North Korea vs South Korea / Japan
USA vs France

Of course, that last one is my little joke, but I would say the US is most likely to use some kind of nuclear weapon out of everyone.

But I forgot to mention a little something regarding nuclear weapon theory - mutually assured destruction (heard of that?)

None of the "possible" nuclear conflicts above will ever occur do to MAD. India and Pakistan would wipe each other out (altho not sure how good each others early wearning system is), same really with India/China (altho China would wipe more of India out, tho India could inflict enuf damage on China for them not to be so stupid enuf to try it). I would say Israel has no intention of going to war with its neighbours, so would only use its nuclear weapons if attacked. As for that - WHO IN THEIR RIGHT FUCKING MIND WOULD ATTACK ISRAEL?!?!?!?!?! So that negates the possibility of Iran attacking Israel (assured destruction for anyone that attacks Israel). North Korea has nukes for bargaining power. It has said it would fire nukes at America if America attacked (in fact China hinted at something similar if the US intervened in a Sino-Taiwan conflict) but one, America would have to attack North Korea to force a retaliation (which is possible) and also, bearing in mind North Korea has no ability (and any near future capability will not have a high survivability) to attack US, and they attack the South instead, North Korea presses its own self destruct button...

The ONLY time nukes have every been used is when MAD was not applicable, can you give me any example of where a state would ever use nukes and be totally immune from MAD?

The only example I can think of is terrorists, yet you cant fit a ballistic missile on your shoulder to launch it out of a bazooka can you?!

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Originally posted by George Smiley WHO IN THEIR RIGHT FUCKING MIND WOULD ATTACK ISRAEL?!?!?!?!?!

Don't tempt me like that...

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