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Originally posted by occrider Well, the signatories of the declaration of independance were British citizens. One can argue that only with the conclusion of the revolutionary war, did America truly come into existence. In the latter 18th and early 19th century, "Canada" was a loose amalgamation of three separate colonial holdings, Newfoundland, Nova Scotia, and Quebec (in 1791 Upper and Lower Canada only consisted of the Quebec province). Since the confederation movement only began some time around the 1840s I think it's accurate to say that "Canada" did not exist in 1812 in as much as I could say that "America" did not exist in the French and Indian war of 1754 ...

Canada did exist at that time and it was actually called the dominion of Canada. Newfoundland did not become part of Canada until 1949.

Lower and Upper Canada was actually called Canada back then even if it was still not a full blown country until 1867. Even then people could argue that we did not acheive real confederation until 1981 when we finally had our own constitution. Unlike the US, Canada was born with transition over hundreds of years and not from a single event. Either way, we still won the war or else we'd all be saying "HUH?" instead of "EH?".

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

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