Ok:

I'm assuming that mixer is the only mixer for your track.

In the bottom righthand corner of each maelstrom is a master volume control, and there are also volume faders per OSC next to each OSC. Set those accordingly, and then go to your main mixer. Each device (redrum, nn19, etc.) has a master volume control. Use it.

If you think you have the 'ratio' correct between all your channels and the master is clipping... turn the master down until it doesn't clip?

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Originally posted by RIPassion Ok: I'm assuming that mixer is the only mixer for your track. In the bottom righthand corner of each maelstrom is a master volume control, and there are also volume faders per OSC next to each OSC. Set those accordingly, and then go to your main mixer. Each device (redrum, nn19, etc.) has a master volume control. Use it. If you think you have the 'ratio' correct between all your channels and the master is clipping... turn the master down until it doesn't clip?

Sorry I didnt understand you dude...can u explain it again step by step?

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Originally posted by Shahar Ok, I've just set the volume to be lower, now it just looks like this:

Ok now put the master on 127 and find a amount for each channel which'll not clip the output. So add 10 to each channel and see if it clips etc.

you don't need to get to the maximum output level before the mixdown. that's something for the mastering procedure and will be made in a audio-editor. just get enough headroom before you export the tune, so you can still compress and limit it proper in the editor.

If you don't mind you have less dynamic, this works. I like to use the maximum output. What's your preference 127 steps for volume or only 80.
Most producers here won't mind though.

guys,
I dont like the ratio between the first melody channel (scream1) and the second (eq2)...but if ill change the ratio, it will clip the output...how can I keep the ratio?

What do you mean with ratio here. Explain what you mean by "the ratio between".

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Originally posted by MadThijs What do you mean with ratio here. Explain what you mean by "the ratio between".

The volume level of first melody channel should be 10 steps lower than the second melody channel. like: ch1 = 50, ch2 = 60

but I cant to that coz channel 2 will clip the output...

You should add a limiter or a compressor to the master channel in order to keep it tidy. I usually don't compress the masterchannel anymore, I rather limit it to -4dB, and normalize it in a wave editor. When I limit the master instead of compressing it, I find that I will retain the levels on all parts throughout the track, instead of stuff getting blurry as more and more stuff comes in. (not an eq issue).

I'm new to this too, so no flaming plz!

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Originally posted by Beijer You should add a limiter or a compressor to the master channel in order to keep it tidy. I usually don't compress the masterchannel anymore, I rather limit it to -4dB, and normalize it in a wave editor. When I limit the master instead of compressing it, I find that I will retain the levels on all parts throughout the track, instead of stuff getting blurry as more and more stuff comes in. (not an eq issue). I'm new to this too, so no flaming plz!

when you say 'add limiter or compressor to the master' u mean to the mixer master or to the nn-19 master?


btw, every synth im using has a compressor..it's ok?

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Originally posted by Shahar The volume level of first melody channel should be 10 steps lower than the second melody channel. like: ch1 = 50, ch2 = 60 but I cant to that coz channel 2 will clip the output...

That's why you need a compressor on the master and possibly even on the lead. Why do you need to compress a lead? Well trance is definitly not a genre where the lead has alot of dynamic range, so you'll want to decrease that dynamic range and most importantly stop it from any having abrupt spikes or peaks(especially the case when you layer lots of leads together to make 1 phat lead).

Anyway, back to your problem. Try and set this up(wait a while for it to load as it's animated ):




Notice how when I increase the volumn of lead1, the compressor(really a limiter as it's set to the highest ratio) kicks in and compresses the signal source. Result = well set it up yourself and listen to what it does.