Well commercial stuff like darude, too commercial, too cheesy and yes in my opinion this kind of DANCE DANCE music is a piece of shit. I remember when it was more unknown, underground , it wasn't a great tune but it was a bit good. Today things have changed and poeple have o understand that our music skills grow each days.

I Can understand why such bad producer like COSMIC GATE can take a piece of trance track like their new remix of

1)DJ TIESTO - FLIGHT 643
2)MISS SHIVA - DREAMS

and make a remix. I really think that poeple who like this kind of music have a bit of CLUBBER in their way to talk about trance 'cause this is not trance, it's dance and if this shit is trance, be sure i'm not a trance addict anymore.

Trance is: tiesto - corsten - buuren - bedrock - digweed and much more

C'mon guys maybe you disagree my opinion but no more club stuff there.

Have you ever listen all stuff like bedrock in a club, tiesto or jimmy van m.....well not sure

bedrock/digweed is shitty cheese-prog. NEVER say its trance

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Well i can agree your opinion about your digweed or bedrock facts because it was the same the first time i've listened their stuff. But when your progressive mood will grow. maybe you'll like their stuff. Also i'm a bit agree with you to say that bedrock is not trance but check some stuff on their cd's and you have some piece of trance. But today the difference between some tracks of progressive house and trance are hard to see.

like bedrock - heaven scent



thanks man

my opinion is that i dont like bedrock. the fact is they arnt trance. and my progressive mood touches more specified artists rather than the obvious sasha-digweed connection... thank you.

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what you listen who is better than bedrock...excuse me for my poor english...


you probable know jimmy van m and dave seman

DuMonde, Tiesto, Corsten, van Buuren, Signum, Rank 1, Flutlicht, Minimalistix, Lange, Airscape... need i go on?

english your poor excused you are pumpkin train track

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Commercial trance is cheese trance which is ATB in the likes of 9pm til i come and darude-sandstorm. Basically music dat is played to death at local clubs. REal trance is music from the likes of Gatecrasher, Ministry of sound, CReams etc. Stuff that originates there. Paul Van dyk -- Angel is overplayed but its not commercial..WHy? because its original and its sound does not give the listener a catchy melody like the Guitar in Sandstorm or the Piano in PPk Ressurection. CHEEEEESE- UNORIGINAL BUT CATCHY!

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Originally posted by tiesto2222 DuMonde TrAnCeR like bedrock - heaven scent thanks man

Absolutely love that tune for that very fact, it walks the border in my opinion.

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Originally posted by speedracer_mec Commercial trance is cheese trance which is ATB in the likes of 9pm til i come and darude-sandstorm. Basically music dat is played to death at local clubs. REal trance is music from the likes of Gatecrasher, Ministry of sound, CReams etc. Stuff that originates there. Paul Van dyk -- Angel is overplayed but its not commercial..WHy? because its original and its sound does not give the listener a catchy melody like the Guitar in Sandstorm or the Piano in PPk Ressurection. CHEEEEESE- UNORIGINAL BUT CATCHY!

If you heard For An Angel on the radio and every joint in town all over the world over and over again. I'm sorry, it would be put into the same catagory that Darude - Sandstrom is in now. Not because one is any better than the other either. Mr. Van Dyk played Sandstorm quite a bit along with many other big DJ's that are being named off in this thread when it first came out. If it hadn't gotten so popular and overplayed EVERYWHERE, then I believe it wouldn't be looked down upon so much. I'm not saying it's my favourite tune either simply stating why *I THINK* it has been labelled as "commercial cheese" and others have not.

OK what is considered cheese.....
DJ QUiksilver or the song FINAL Fantasy or the song Vengaboys, or ATB- 9pm til i come, Anything by Space FROG, Pulsedriver, Talla2xlc<<<<<<<

personally, I can't wait for the day where my trance knowledge and music collection is so great that I think sandstorm is shite. I loved the toon since I downloaded PvD @mayday 2000. I also liked Barthez and even ... Alice Deejay(gag!) One day I hope to be into this trance scene the way some of you guys are, I'm just clueless right now.

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personally, I can't wait for the day where my trance knowledge and music collection is so great that I think sandstorm is shite. I loved the toon since I downloaded PvD @mayday 2000. I also liked Barthez and even ... Alice Deejay(gag!) One day I hope to be into this trance scene the way some of you guys are, I'm just clueless right now.

UnWorldly, I hope to god that you are being sarcastic with that statement. If you love a tune, then you love it. Don't stop listening to a tune because other people tell you the tune is shit! That's pathetic! Everyone has different tastes. People can critique things to death but it's you who ultimately decides if you want to listen to it or not.

I'm tired of people calling tunes like sandstorm crap simply because it's commercial and without any other reason. WTF? A tune is crap because it's commercial? I can see how some people can get their panties tied up in a knot when you classify sandstorm as trance.

I remember listening to Darude the first time at underground clubs way before it ever got public and I remembered how blown away we were. After about a year or so later it slowly crept it's way to clubs and then the radio till it got played to death. Some of the people I know who went nuts for the tune in it's infancy suddenly didn't like it anymore simply because now it's mainstream and some of the underground flavour was lost. It was 'uncool' to like a tune because now that so many people who knew nothing about trance music started liking it. WTF??

Bottom line, if you like the tune then listen to it! People can review tunes to death but in the end it's you to decide if you want to listen to it again. Also keep in mind commercial tunes varies greatly depending on where you live. In Europe trance is a lot more mainstream than it is in North America. Some of the tunes that are considered commercial there never get any airtime here and vice versa.