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arek
african messiah

Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Toronto - North York
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Jan-26-2005 20:00
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Swamper
Webmonstah

Registered: Jan 2000
Location: Toronto, Canada
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| quote: | Originally posted by muzzybear
They'll drop it to 96 and a fine with no points. It'll screw you on your insurance. Just don't fight it when you get to court! You'll lose and piss off the court and get stuck with the full fine and points.. |
actually 96 in an 80 = 3 points (16-29 km/hr threshold)
I'm no stranger to tickets, this is my 4th or 5th in the past 6 years, anyways, you should *always* request a trial - about 3-4 weeks before your court date you should send registered mail to the provincial prosecutor (addressed @ your court house) requesting full disclosure (officers training, writing on front/back of ticket, radar unit involved, last time it was calibrated (if not laser), etc)
I found out all about this stuff on a site called fyst - www.magma.ca/~fyst - one time the cop was there but didn't provide the info so he didn't want to testify - I was off - another time he didn't provide it, so I got another court date 5 months later (aka 9 months after I got the ticket).
Points stay on your license for 2 years after *offence* date, so, the longer you postpone the court date the better - insurance looks at that stuff for 3 years, so you're not exactly in the clear there - usually if it's 2 minor offences (<50 km/hr speeding) you are ok - points only really matter for commercial drivers (insurance wise).
So, really, getting away with 'no points' isn't that big a deal, that just helps you out with the MTO if you get more infractions, but in the eyes of insurance companies - points or not - it is a conviction.
Last month I had my license suspended for apparently not paying a speeding ticket I was convicted of in August that I got back in March on the way to Montreal for Bal en Blanc.. Ontario is great, if you have outstanding fines they will only tell you after they've already suspended you (by mail), they changed this policy 2 years ago so they could milk you for the license reinstatement fee (raised to $150 in october) - I paid that off and had my license 2 days later, but, on my record it'll still show I had my license suspended.
Don't bother with Pointts or any of those ppl unless you have some really serious offences, you can do what they do for free, you just have to miss some time off work.
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Last edited by Swamper on Jan-26-2005 at 20:10
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Jan-26-2005 20:04
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