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Originally posted by zizack I just picked up Intakt's Wired: The Elements of Trance Virtual Soudn Module today and am having trouble exporting the samples into other programs. The file extensions aren't wav files...they're labeled as NKI files...basically I'm trying to figure out how ot change the file type and get all the samples into other programs like FL, Reason or Acid...anyone know how to fix this? Thanks

NKI is Native instruments Kontakt Instrument. Since player included for these sound modules is kompakt, I guess that all samples and programs are within a single file, in order to prevent unauthorized copying. So, these sounds are usable only if you install the included player (Kompakt) as VSTi, and are usable only through that instrument.
You might try converting them with a sample converter, like Extreme Sample Converter or CDXtract, but i do not really think it would work.

i know theres some samplers witch are playing *.rex files, BUT how to import *.rex from refill file?

is there any vst samplers with refill support?

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Originally posted by superddman I know you can easily convert akai to wav and I belive same applies to giga. However, you will have to purchase (maybe there is a free one, not sure) one of the convertor softwares. The most popular ones are: CDXtract, Extreme Sample Converter, and Chickensys Translator. I must say that it's a crazy world out there when it comes to sample formats. I think there should only be one, WAV.

giga, akai, nki, even soundfont, are much more than simple wavs. these formats describe INSTRUMENTS, not SAMPLES. i tried once to make an instrument from 30 bare samples of an instrument, and decided to quit after 20 minutes (that was an akai cd which i converted to simple wav by mistake).

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Originally posted by hardikaveri i know theres some samplers witch are playing *.rex files, BUT how to import *.rex from refill file? is there any vst samplers with refill support?

nope. refill is not an open format, and propellerheads will do their best to make it stay that way.

thnx h vox... so rewire is only way to go

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Originally posted by h.vox giga, akai, nki, even soundfont, are much more than simple wavs. these formats describe INSTRUMENTS, not SAMPLES. i tried once to make an instrument from 30 bare samples of an instrument, and decided to quit after 20 minutes (that was an akai cd which i converted to simple wav by mistake).

ya, true, but I only use samples for drums/percussions/fx. For that wavs are the best. I just need single shots that can be inserted quickly into a sequence. Ofcourse, if you use samples for strings or otehr melodic parts, then wavs is not the way to go.

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Originally posted by superddman ya, true, but I only use samples for drums/percussions/fx. For that wavs are the best. I just need single shots that can be inserted quickly into a sequence. Ofcourse, if you use samples for strings or otehr melodic parts, then wavs is not the way to go.

do you know any other sample format than wav that is being used (except aiff)? no? so, you see, wav already IS the only format used to describe samples only
elements of trance is a collection of layered fx and instruments, so instruments must be defined, not just samples. besides, they have to protect their work somehow, right?

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Originally posted by h.vox do you know any other sample format than wav that is being used (except aiff)? no? so, you see, wav already IS the only format used to describe samples only elements of trance is a collection of layered fx and instruments, so instruments must be defined, not just samples. besides, they have to protect their work somehow, right?

from what I can gather they do offer single instrument sounds, not only layers. Thats what I'm after. I don't really even care about the layered fx etc... I should have done more research before buying the program, but I thought that it would just be a huge sample library.