quote:

Originally posted by tactik I think most of the big name trance dj's are similarly good. Most of them I've listened to sets from sounded like on mix cd's. None of them had any experiments going on or anything interesting (aside from the track's obviouslly). I think in the future it's going to be even harder comparing them if they don't incorporate schratching, more efx usage or clever acapella usage, since most of them will probably stop using vinyl & cd's and move on to Ableton Live (like Sasha, G & D and more). I think you simply can't compete against computers when it comes to running two tracks at the same time. If I had to choose between them I'd probably go for Above & Beyond, if they are as good as on their last years Essential Mix (that's the best trance set I've heard for since Tiesto's remarkable essetial mix in 2001).

lol your like saying computers are better music composers then humans..

hahaha computers have limited abbilities... and i dont think "sasha"(who ever is the best technical dj) are programming these machines...

___________________
Time exists so everything doesn't happen at once. Space exists so everything doesn't happen to you

quote:

Originally posted by sandstorm03 have you ever called vinyl "disks"? i never saw media/equipment specifications for djs all you think sasha does now is hit the auto beatmatch button??

SASHA DOES NOT USE VINYL

Jeez. And did I ever fucking say all Sasha does is hit the beatmatch button? No, dickwad.

Tactik, vinyls aren't discs? They're thin circular objects, which would make them discs. Jesus fucking christ you people are bright. Not.

___________________

quote:

Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike If I wanted to listen to a DJ bang out shit as weak sounding as Andy Moor / Markus Schulz etc. i'd go listen to Armin van Buuren. Nothing fucks me off more than a fan that thinks a DJ can do no wrong. There is a lot of good music out there. How some people can be so easily pleased is beyond my comprehension.

quote:

Originally posted by sandstorm03 lol your like saying computers are better music composers then humans..

How did you make that out? I was pointing out that computers can roll two tracks at the same time without skipping a beat or losing it much easier then on 2 decks. What has that got to do with composing?

quote:

Originally posted by Ory SASHA DOES NOT USE VINYL Jeez. And did I ever fucking say all Sasha does is hit the beatmatch button? No, dickwad. Tactik, vinyls aren't discs? They're thin circular objects, which would make them discs. Jesus fucking christ you people are bright. Not.

So a dj using tapes and real2reals in the 80's weren't dj's? Radio stations don't use vinyl or cd anymore (at least most of them), does that mean that radio dj's aren't dj's anymore, even though they choose the tracks?

quote:

Originally posted by sandstorm03 how do u come up with that?? what is sasha then? a person that mixes beats? ps. j00f is not a trance dj

yea i forgot john 00 flemming spins country

___________________
we scream,we dance,we laugh,we love to the beats...non stop with the beats

quote:

Originally posted by tactik So a dj using tapes and real2reals in the 80's weren't dj's? Radio stations don't use vinyl or cd anymore (at least most of them), does that mean that radio dj's aren't dj's anymore, even though they choose the tracks?

Then they aren't DJs. The term DJ is based around the usage of vinyl, is it not? You can still call them that if you want, but I won't. My point is that what Sasha does now is not what "regular" DJs do.

___________________

quote:

Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike If I wanted to listen to a DJ bang out shit as weak sounding as Andy Moor / Markus Schulz etc. i'd go listen to Armin van Buuren. Nothing fucks me off more than a fan that thinks a DJ can do no wrong. There is a lot of good music out there. How some people can be so easily pleased is beyond my comprehension.

quote:

Originally posted by Ory Then they aren't DJs. The term DJ is based around the usage of vinyl, is it not? You can still call them that if you want, but I won't. My point is that what Sasha does now is not what "regular" DJs do.

Fair enough, we disagree (mainly cause I'm switching to Ableton Live when "dj'ing" myself). Just out of curiosity, what do you call what Sasha (and others) do?

No idea what I would call it. A mix between live performance and DJing... without discs.

___________________

quote:

Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike If I wanted to listen to a DJ bang out shit as weak sounding as Andy Moor / Markus Schulz etc. i'd go listen to Armin van Buuren. Nothing fucks me off more than a fan that thinks a DJ can do no wrong. There is a lot of good music out there. How some people can be so easily pleased is beyond my comprehension.

The main reason I call it dj'ing is because he's still doing the same thing, just using other methods. If anyone comes with another, better, term for it I'll probably use it. Until then, Sasha is still a dj in my books.

Thanks for everyones input

___________________
Eric

quote:

Originally posted by Ory No idea what I would call it. A mix between live performance and DJing... without discs.

its certainly not a live performance.

___________________
Liverpool Champions of Europe 2005!


TA's NFL survival League winner 2006!

richie hawtin without a shadow of a doubt.