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COSMIC CITIZEN
tranceaddict in training
Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Athens
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definitely worths the money mate i have it and its a must have for any trance producer...
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Feb-01-2005 15:12
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Bipolar Bear
Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Dublin
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| quote: | | for me it was a must leave, for anybody who wants a little bit of originality it is. Don't get me wrong I still like the supersaw, but other instruments are capable of doing one too. |
yep. i think these things sell nowadays on the strength of the supersaw oscillators. they still fetch on average, higher prices than virus b desktops on ebay. crikey. as for how it sounds. without the supersaw oscillator its your typical VA type sound. sort of good for everything if you like artificial warm kind of sounds. like any 2 or 3 osc softie with a filter and an envelope and a few FX, you can make whole dance songs on a jp. its just a question of how good you are with your tools. dont go thinking you can synthesize gorgeous realistic pianos on it though. aint gonna happen. making pads on the jp8000 i imagine wouldnt be cool banannas. 8 poly? i already eat most of my virus b 24 poly limit on most of my pads alone.
its definitely showing its age too what with it being only 4 parts multi timbral (but with 10 poly its not like you are gonna use em all. heh. similarly virus b. 24 poly. 16 parts? yea right.)
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Feb-02-2005 00:47
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Bipolar Bear
Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Dublin
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| quote: | | where can i get small sample files of the jp8000? (no not the rb2k1 samples)... I want those because i want to know what the jp8000 is capable of besides creating supersaws, because if i buy a jp8000 it has to do more than just supersaws, much more... |
if you want an entire dance music ensemble with house pianos (ala alesis fusion), fuzzy VA leads (ala nord lead), thick fat analogue basslines (sequential pro one), realistic string pads (ala emu virtuoso. good luck programming it. ha!) and (surprise surprise) a 303 (you guessed it, roland tb-303) then you aint gonna find all that on one instrument to the accuracy attainable without buying all this shit. a JP will do basses and pads and 303 leads and supersaws. basses probably wont be quite as fat as your average analogue monosynth. but thats to be expected. string ensembles wont sound quite as dynamic as those on a virtuoso. but what you do you expect? theres an extra 118 simultanoues voices on the virtuoso and its sample playback (the jp was doomed to lose this battle forever). it does however do some wicked supersaws (!!). thats why people buy JPs. if you dont have anything else it can do a whole bunch of other stuff for the £500 you shell out for it. not bad really. my virus b does some cool 303 leads. does some nice fat and warm basses. not up the fatness of a real sh-101. but hey. it screams like few VA synths can. thats why i bought it.
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Feb-02-2005 00:56
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bachatu
A Trance Of Thought

Registered: May 2001
Location: South Florida
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the JP-8080 is great for all sorts of leads. In the trance world, it's known more for it's overused (for a good reason)detuned super saw.
The JP-8080 is great for strings, pads and sweep fx. It's saw wave form, both super and regular have a good set of teeth (when comparing to other synths)... thats the main reason people tend to use this synth for saw leads. This synth can do basses, but it really shines more on leads.
One thing that I believe is overlooked is that it you can get good patches when using just one oscillator. It's not always necessary to layer using other oscillators, taking up additional voices. For the most part, for the amount of parts that it offers(only 2), in comparison to the 10 voices, thats 5 voices per part, it's more than enough if you are using this as a specialty synth (like for your main lead in a track).
I wouldn't consider this synth an all arounder to rely on for fills, basses, etc. A Nord Lead, Virus, Supernova fits better in that category. And as mentioned by someone else before, if you want real acoustic type sounds, then find a Triton, Motif or JV/XV series type module, as they specialize and run off sample based patches/ waveforms. One advantage that the JP-8080 has is its simplicity and usability. Very easy, simple to program, with all the knobs laid out... it has a knob or slider for most parameters, which is a relief if you're used to programming a virus or waldorf.
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Feb-02-2005 02:31
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