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Feb-12-2005 09:07
tiesto14
Let The Music Play
Registered: Oct 2001
Location: The Palladium New York City
quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Interesting stuff Trancer-X. I wonder how long its going to take for the public to know what really happened, if that's ever going to happen.
Why don't you enlighten us with what REALLY happened. I mean if you REALLY know what happened maybe you should contact the proper authoroties or a lawyer. With the information you posses you surely should take action ASAP!
Feb-14-2005 19:40
shaolin_Z
Hei Hu Quan
Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Austin, Texas, USA: TXTA #102
quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
Why don't you enlighten us with what REALLY happened. I mean if you REALLY know what happened maybe you should contact the proper authoroties or a lawyer. With the information you posses you surely should take action ASAP!
Well, the media is usually full of shit (espcially mainstream america media) and so are politicians. And its pretty f*cking obvious they're lying to us and are suppressing the facts. So until they declasssify those damn files, our heavily indoctrinated public will refuse to even consider anything other than what the Gov/Media says. It hard to believe they didn't know about the attacks before hand with all the info that is out now and obviously didn't to much to prevent it. That much is clear. If there's anything shadier than that, I don't know.
Feb-14-2005 23:18
shaolin_Z
Hei Hu Quan
Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Austin, Texas, USA: TXTA #102
quote:
Originally posted by wolverine16
DARN YOU BILL CLINTON! IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT
Intresting document. El Quaida's goals are also specifically stated there. "Oh no, they hate us and our freedom."
Feb-15-2005 06:00
occrider
Traveladdict
Registered: Oct 2000
Location: New York
quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Well, the media is usually full of shit (espcially mainstream america media) and so are politicians. And its pretty f*cking obvious they're lying to us and are suppressing the facts. So until they declasssify those damn files, our heavily indoctrinated public will refuse to even consider anything other than what the Gov/Media says. It hard to believe they didn't know about the attacks before hand with all the info that is out now and obviously didn't to much to prevent it. That much is clear. If there's anything shadier than that, I don't know.
Same bullshit used by the religous right to "prove" the existence of God or the neocon "proof" for wmd's due to the lack of proof that there aren't wmds. Arguing a negative doesn't prove a god damn thing. While we're on the topic of examining 9/11 conspiracy theories, popular mechanics actually took the time to scientifically research the arguments posed by a number of internet websites:
Big surprise that sites such as "whatreallyhappened" selectively suppressed data and the context within which the data was provided in order to promote their agenda.
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Feb-15-2005 07:46
shaolin_Z
Hei Hu Quan
Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Austin, Texas, USA: TXTA #102
quote:
Originally posted by occrider
Same bullshit used by the religous right to "prove" the existence of God or the neocon "proof" for wmd's due to the lack of proof that there aren't wmds. Arguing a negative doesn't prove a god damn thing. While we're on the topic of examining 9/11 conspiracy theories, popular mechanics actually took the time to scientifically research the arguments posed by a number of internet websites:
Big surprise that sites such as "whatreallyhappened" selectively suppressed data and the context within which the data was provided in order to promote their agenda.
I checked out that link. I didnt even remotely suggest anything like that. All I said was there's enough evidence that indicates they knew about the attacks well in advance and didn't really do much about it.
Feb-15-2005 22:59
occrider
Traveladdict
Registered: Oct 2000
Location: New York
quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
I checked out that link. I didnt even remotely suggest anything like that. All I said was there's enough evidence that indicates they knew about the attacks well in advance and didn't really do much about it.
Oh, and what comprehensive evidence establishes for a fact, knowledge of and willing inaction as opposed to simple incompetance and derilection?
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Feb-16-2005 06:26
shaolin_Z
Hei Hu Quan
Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Austin, Texas, USA: TXTA #102
quote:
Originally posted by occrider
Oh, and what comprehensive evidence establishes for a fact, knowledge of and willing inaction as opposed to simple incompetance and derilection?
I can't be bothered to pull up and post tons of material. You probably have already seen atleast some of it and totally disregarded it.
"Close your eyes and go back to sleep America, your Goverment has figured out how it all happened. Go back to sleep America. You are free to do as we tell you. You are free to do as we tell you. You are free to do as we tell you." (or something like that) -Bill Hicks
Feb-17-2005 07:43
occrider
Traveladdict
Registered: Oct 2000
Location: New York
"It is known that there are an infinite number of worlds, simply because there is an infinite amount of space for them. However, not every one of them is inhabited. Therefore, there must be a finite number of inhabited worlds. Any finite number divided by infinity is as near to nothing as makes no odds, so the average population of all the planets in the Universe can be said to be zero. From this it follows that the population of the whole Universe is also zero, and that any people you may meet from time to time are merely the products of a deranged imagination."
- Douglas Adams
See, I can argue with quotes too.
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Feb-17-2005 07:52
shaolin_Z
Hei Hu Quan
Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Austin, Texas, USA: TXTA #102
quote:
Originally posted by occrider
See, I can argue with quotes too.
the only problem is that your's doesn't apply in this case and is quite irrelevant
Feb-17-2005 08:49
CyberneticAngel
MC 62 foot Jesus
Registered: Feb 2005
Location: Under a very small rock
quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
the only problem is that your's doesn't apply in this case and is quite irrelevant