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Originally posted by Boomer187 I think you just explained a part of what experience is.

technically, yes, but you could just as well be a trainspotter with an amazing collection of techno records and know them by heart, and while having never touched a deck, you'd be great at selecting what to go with what.

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but it would be difficult to properly mix and understand how one goes on top of another without the experience on decks or cds, dont u agree?

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Originally posted by dinoXpress but it would be difficult to properly mix and understand how one goes on top of another without the experience on decks or cds, dont u agree?

hmm. kind of goes without saying. he was just saying that ONLY knowing your records isnt 'experience'. you need to know your records inside and out and how to beat/phrase/harmonically match tracks within seconds. that is experience... doing this over and over again until it becomes a second nature. the more you practice the more you'll realize how much easier it is. thats when you start experimenting with shorter mixes, sampling, etc etc. let your creative juices flow, and try to not be restricted by a pre-determined setlist. (especially if playing live- if the crowd isnt feelin it, youd have to adapt)

so now go listen to some records and enjoy

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I dont plan out my sets but I have all the BPMs and Keys on my records. That way my sets are always in key but I don't have a specific order I like to play my records in.

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Experience, yes definately.
Be aware though that a lot of techno DJs will have pre rehearsed tricks that they put in their sets at different places but on the whole a lot of the stuff is fairly random.

Techno is more forgiving in terms of keys etc as it's mainly rythm based and the same may not work for trance. You do have to know your records well to pull this off though.

What you will realise is that eventually everything you do is pre-planned to a certain degree, once you get to the point were you pick out what you want to bring in your record bag.

Once you understand the rules of music you will find this easier. Again with techno, the phrases are less obvious so it's another thing that you don't have to be paying as much attention to as perhaps other tracks.

Different genres present different challenges which greatly depends on your own interpretation of how you think it should sound when you play it.

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Originally posted by dinoXpress but it would be difficult to properly mix and understand how one goes on top of another without the experience on decks or cds, dont u agree?

of course, but thats irrelevant, as i believe our topic starter is having trouble with picking what record to go next, not with mixing it, which is why he plans his set out beforehand in order to be able to think about things. so it's not really technical ability which is on topic here, it's track selection.

furthermore, i have friends who can make amazing track selections, without having ever spun themselves, due to the fact that they know so much music and listen to so many DJ sets (listening to a techno track mixed in a set with 2 others playing, and then listening to them seperately gives you a great idea of how it is mixed) that they know what is a great track to mix with what. me and my friends do that a lot, when one of them has a bunch of CDs or vinyls that they use for listening, they give them to us that spin, and give us suggestions of what tracks to play from them.

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I know a few big name djs that spin that style (one min or less a song) get there records cut to the same bpm. This way they set each table at the same speed and grab any track they want... ever get to see them do it they will not even touch the pitch. this is not everyone as it would cost some $$$$ but that is one way some do it.

^^ sure, some do it, but what is the fun in that? it'd be like work. all you do is cue up, release, cut in, cut out, cue up, release, cut in...

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^^^ total agree with you on this... i just know that some do. sellout move if you ask me.