if they aren't to big i could host them for you...upload them to myplay or send them to [email protected]

gluegun: i have a Beyerdynamic DT411, does that count?

DT411?

I've never heard of THAT model... can ya gimme some details of it? maybe post some comparative reviews? Which line is (was?) it in? It is no longer made, correct?

Anyways, I was merely saying that you would probably need an audiophile-quality or engineer-quality setup (sound card and headphones) to pick out the most differences.

And, I was hinting for you to go look at the tests the guy at www.r3mix.net did, because he already DID what you are talking about...

the DT411 is a pretty old version of the DT431...i had the DT311 as well but the qualtity of the DT411 was sooo much better. i thought about buying better ones but i haven't decided yet...

Gonna use it for music listening or recording/mixing? amped or unamped (like, does the headphone jack have some power or is it a balls-less portable?)

i wanna use it for music listening (trance, ambient, classical); i won't use it for live mixing...

my amplifier is a Harman/Kardon AVR 18 RDS

is there a big loss in quality if i'd connect high quality headphones to my pc (soundblaster live)???

Eh....Soundblaster live is hissy as all hell, and it can't drive all that much...

But I happily connect my headphone amp to it, and my big Beyers to it.

Do you want open or closed?

Will you be using it for computer gaming?

*ahem*

And, to get at least HALFWAY back on topic, what media are you going to use for the test? What will be the reference, the control? A *.wav of something? Well?

quote:

Originally posted by Gluegun Do you want open or closed? Will you be using it for computer gaming?

i prefer closed...

and i won't use it for computer gaming...what's the difference?

I've got some space now. I'm uploadinga few tunes just now so as soon as I've finished that I'll post the samples.

The link is working now. Go back to the first post and please read over the rules before downloading!

For easy to drive closed headphones that are REALLY nice, check out the Beyerdynamic DT250-80, or, ideally, the Etymotic ER4P.

By the way, with amplifier, I was talking about HEADPHONE amplifier, or any info on the amplification properties of whatever you will be plugging these headphones into... you *don't* plug headphones into a speaker amplifier, unless you are plugging the AKG K1000's into a 6 through 10 watt speaker amp.

ok thanks a lot ...i'm gonna check them out

btw these headphones are pretty cheap here in germany...DT250-80 for $130

just one thing...what's the difference between DT250-80 and the DT831 cause they both cost the same!?!