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Originally posted by zizack on topic, I don't really know how FL and a new computer are going to help you learn how to dj. Pick up some cd decks and a mixer and start practicing.

I actually found going from mixing on a pc to decks a lot easier to. thanks to traktor I already knew how to beat match. I knew how to keep a mix in beat longer than 1 min, cueing, x-fading etc so as soon as I jumped on a set of decks I had pretty much mastered it. Just took a little time to adjust.

I also have traktor on a P3 550, 512mb ram and a SB live 4.1 and It runs fine (runs on a channel on the mixer so I can mix vinyl to mp3's/CD's or play loops/vocals etc). You dont actually need the fastest you can buy for mixing. Producing on the other hand its a better to have faster. SO this guy could prob just run it off the pc he uses to go online and just purchase a decent soundcard (could even be done with onboard 4.1) get some headphones and a dj program and your sorted. once hes learned beat matching, understanding bars, x-fading on the pc he will be well on his way when he buys some decks.

haha you guys should see my custom keyboard I done for traktor. looks well gay but it works!

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Last edited by trancecadet on Feb-28-2005 at 22:46

Definitely get a mac powerbook. it may cost more, but is much more reliable and it will serve you through production, live, recording (built-in audio input). IMO macs were designed for muscians. Most people just say that they look cool..thats why all DJs are using them, but I have had experience on both Windows and Mac, and strongly reccomend it.

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Originally posted by bass.exe Definitely get a mac powerbook. it may cost more, but is much more reliable and it will serve you through production, live, recording (built-in audio input). IMO macs were designed for muscians. Most people just say that they look cool..thats why all DJs are using them, but I have had experience on both Windows and Mac, and strongly reccomend it.

I agree but I think the choice of software available on PC's is far more varied. Most software is written for windows..

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I would strongly recomend a G5 processor by Apple, dual if possible. You will be so satified with the results, 64 bit processsing, up to 8 gigs of ram, i rarley if EVER get a freeze or crash on my mac. I highly recomend an Apple.

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Originally posted by trancecadet I agree but I think the choice of software available on PC's is far more varied. Most software is written for windows..

no. when it comes to music related software or graphic/video software, the software available for mac is the same as that available for windows, perhaps even more choice and on top of that works way better.

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i use FL and it's good, but hte amount of clicking / lack of many sounds leaves me frustrated. and you def. cant use it live.

you definitely can use it live. if you are experiencing pops and crackles it will mean 1 of 2 things:

1) your ASIO drivers are overloaded. in which case you'll need to increase the size of the ASIO buffer. if you have hit the maximum ASIO buffer size - seriously, stop triggering so plugins simultaneously. bounce down all your synths and reimport into the project as wavs (after a little tidying up in, for example, soundforge).

2) your CPU is overloaded. in which case you are running too many synths and effect processes in realtime. render stuff for crying out loud. sure you wont be able to play the actual notes but for anything that is played at superhuman time (32nds and 64ths at 140 bpm +) render the plain sound from the synth and effect the sample live! use your imagination!

as for the 'lack of sounds' you seriously arent looking hard enough. there are millions and millions of sounds you can import into FL Studio. ive got thousands of pretty decent totally free ones off the net. like from meanbeat.co.uk. or dorumalaia.com. not to mention the tens of thousands of sample libraries and akai sample cds etc than you can buy...

also to the original poster of this thread. fl studio is a production tool. you cant really DJ with it. well you sort o can cuz it does have pitch mods which you can assign to sliders and it does have a variable tempo that can be changed in realtime and a start and cue function. but seriously you will be making more work for yourself using fl studio to DJ when its designed more to write tunes. if you wanna beatmatch stuff, traktor is a much better bet.

EDIT: we arent going on a mac versus pc thing again?

seriously. personaly perference. you like playing games in your spare time? dont get a mac. you hate windows explorer crashing or glitching randomly, often taking your work down with it? go get a mac. you dont have the money to buy a mac? get a cheaper PC. you dont like the million and one security flaws in windows? you see where this is leading?

i have a PC. its not that great. it wasnt that expensive. i knew what i was getting myself in for. and it sure as hell is more stable than windows 98 - the OS i was on before windows XP. so really its not that big a deal. if buying a mac makes you feel you are more professional and a better musician artist as a result of going with apple, then go for it. but alot of that is in your head. you arent gonna be better at anything using one over the other. worksman. tools.

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you dont like the million and one security flaws in windows?

Get Windows 2000 or server 2003... minimal crashes, minimal security issues. XP is horrible.

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Originally posted by Benjamin B Get Windows 2000 or server 2003... minimal crashes, minimal security issues. XP is horrible.

server 2003 is a waste of money if he aint gonna use the added networking tools that are with 2003. Better off using XP with sp2 which server 2003 is no different to really.

Who the hell wants to hack a individual? man hackers have better things to do like hack servers (prob another good reason not to run server 2003?). Use a decent firewall, antivirus/trojan and spy checker and keep upto date with ms updates you cant go far wrong.

Anyway why is XP horrible? since xp runs like 2k but without all the fancy themes. which can be removed and turned back to default. and 2003 is essentially a server version of xp but again without the themes. 2003 does have theme support though. its just disabled.

Also Ive had XP pro installed since around jan 2002. Ive never had to reinstall. I never get crashes/lockups. I even run an overclocked cpu, ram and gfx card. So if anything id be increasing my chance of something going wrong. Dunno why ppl diss XP so much. Never had a problem with it and ive screwed with it loads.

why do I have a feeling the threadstarter has gone?

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Last edited by trancecadet on Mar-08-2005 at 15:01