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rabbitjoker
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Toronto, ON, CANADA

quote:
Originally posted by AwakenedAddict
Safari's rate of growth is actually much slower.


Do the same math I did, compare apples to apples:

Firefox's total usage share has increased by more than one per cent since November 2004 (currently 8.45), the web analytics company said.

The global usage share of Apple's Safari has increased from 0.91 per cent to 1.21 per cent since November 2004.


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Old Post Mar-01-2005 18:53  Canada
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AwakenedAddict
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Registered: Oct 2002
Location: Berkeley, California

Well I was comparing apples to apples... that's why i converted the figures. BUT this could just be a case of conflicting statistical reports. I tend to trust reports with precise figures more than reports with approximate figures (ie: "more than one percent"). Either of the growth rates cited in the articles could be wrong, what is certain is that they present conflicting data


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Sweet merciful crap, you mean Firefox's market growth is slowing down as market saturation increases? I'm shocked, SHOCKED!

...No, seriously, what's surprising about this? They'll hit their 10% mark soon enough, and that's more than enough to get competent web designers to think twice about designing IE-exclusive sites.

Websidestory is acting like a Microsoft ballwasher. Ever since Firefox started gaining in popularity they've been consistently under-reporting its market share by deliberately ignoring all non-Windows systems. Yes, Windows dominates the OS market, but it only has about 90% of it, and Firefox has almost half the OS X market and almost all of the Linux market. So do the math, and comes out to about 8.5%, not 5.7%.

Why market gurus love to "estimate" their figures by simply shrugging off the non-Wintel systems will always baffle me. They should know better, since the corporate market is what really matters and Wintel has even less domination in that area (at least, to the best of my knowledge).


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Old Post Mar-01-2005 23:20  Canada
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rabbitjoker
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Toronto, ON, CANADA

Opera Still Tops for Browser Innovation
By Jim Rapoza
April 25, 2005
eWeek.com

For a few years during the height of Internet Explorer's dominance and the depth of Netscape's follies, Opera was the clear choice as the alternative Web browser. But given the recent and rapid rise of Firefox, Opera's status has greatly diminished.

Opera is still a very good Web browser and, with the April release of Opera 8.0, Opera Software ASA shows that it's still clearly No. 1 when it comes to Web browser innovation. Many of the standard features found in the current generation of browsers, such as cookie management and tabbed browsing, were introduced in the Opera browser.

While the improvements in Opera 8.0 aren't monumental, users who are willing to try new things in Web browsing will find Opera 8.0 to be a very intuitive and friendly application to use.

Opera ran well on all of our test systems and for the most part properly displayed all Web pages, although we did run into problems on a few sites, including the home page of espn.com.

One of the most talked-about new features in Opera is a simple whitelist tool that attempts to prevent the Web-site spoofing common in phishing and other fraud-based attacks. Opera does this by supporting only top-level domains that have controls over the Internationalized Domain Name technology that lets sites be described in their native languages. Although this will help to stop some attacks, those who use international character domain names may run into problems.

Click here to read more about the steps Opera took to thwart spoofing in Opera 8.0.

Opera 8.0 also provides much more information about Web pages secured through SSL. When visiting a secure page, users can click on the new security bar to get detailed information about the page and a score on its security rating—3 being the highest rating.

For the general browsing experience, Opera 8.0 has a cleaner interface than the previous versions, although we still found it a little too cluttered until we had adjusted it to our liking.

One of the coolest—and, surprisingly, most useful—new features in Opera 8.0 is the inclusion of a trash barrel on the address bar, which allowed us to see all pop-up pages that had been blocked, and also see any pages or tabs that we had closed. Since we often found that we'd closed a Web page prematurely, this proved to be a very handy feature for getting back pages we had closed.

Another new interface feature we liked was the way Opera could be set to automatically resize the width of a page to fit within the window. This made many pages much more viewable and cut down on annoying horizontal scrolling.

One potential drawback is that, unlike Mozilla-based browsers and IE, Opera cannot log in to Web sites that use Windows authentication.

Currently, Opera 8.0 is available on Windows and Linux systems, and a Mac OS X version is expected in the near future. Opera is available in a free version with an embedded advertising window or without advertising for $39.

For more information, go to www.opera.com.


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Old Post Apr-26-2005 03:56  Canada
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rabbitjoker
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Toronto, ON, CANADA

Microsoft discloses some IE 7 plans
By Paul Festa, CNET News.com
Published on ZDNet News: April 25, 2005, 3:23 PM PT

Microsoft finally told Web developers what they've wanted to hear for years, promising support for graphics and style sheet standards.

In a blog entry posted Friday, a member of Microsoft's Internet Explorer development team said the company plans to support key elements of World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) recommendations Portable Network Graphics (PNG), an image format, and Cascading Style Sheet (CSS), a Web page styling standard.

"We have certainly heard the clear feedback from the Web design community," Chris Wilson, lead program manager for the Web platform in IE, said in reference to support for the PNG standard. "Our first and most important goal with our Cascading Style Sheet support is to remove the major inconsistencies so that Web developers have a consistent set of functionality on which they can rely."

While Microsoft and critics of its Web browser have focused most of their attention on IE's security liabilities, the issue of standards support remains crucial to Web developers.

Glitches in IE's standards support mean that developers have to code separately for IE and for browsers that hew more closely to the standards. IE enjoys about 90 percent browser market share despite losing some points to the Mozilla Foundation's open-source Firefox browser.

Last month, Microsoft was reported to have been planning better PNG and CSS support, but Wilson's blog entry Friday is the first public word to developers that the next version of IE--pegged as a security-focused release--would feature these improvements.

One standards proponent and Microsoft competitor said he looked forward to the proof of IE 7's standards support in the new release.

"The blog says they have fixed a few bugs. Great, but we expect more than that," said Opera Software's chief technology officer, Hakon Lie, who co-authored CSS. "The big question is: Will IE 7 pass the Acid2 test? I proposed the Acid2 challenge in a CNET article, and it has later been published by the Web Standards Project."

Other improvements said to be on tap for IE 7, currently code-named Rincon, include tabbed browsing and support for IDN (Internationalized Domain Names).

For years, developers have complained about IE's CSS bugs, and have called IE's rendering of certain PNG images "ugly."


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Old Post Apr-26-2005 03:58  Canada
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VERTiG0
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Registered: Dec 2003
Location: no longer Cambridge, Ontario, Canada

Firefox still rocks my socks. Extensions are the best things ever. EVER.

ForecastFox and the GMail notifier are the 2 best things in the browser universe.

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rabbitjoker
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Location: Toronto, ON, CANADA

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
GMail notifier


FYI: Google has a system-tray (non-browser based) version of this software.


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VERTiG0
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Registered: Dec 2003
Location: no longer Cambridge, Ontario, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
FYI: Google has a system-tray (non-browser based) version of this software.


I've always got my Firefox open and awaiting though, so 'tis no biggie

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Spankmeister
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Registered: May 2004
Location: South Florida

I have been a Opera fan for many years....

It is my primary surfing browser and I love it...

Go Opera Go!

It is funny, I have installed it on friend's machines and once they use it, they love it..period.


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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Mississauga

Well what do you expect when IE comes with windows. Not only that but a lot of people are computer illiterite and just stick with what works. Not to mention that IE has been around since the dawn of time and a lot of people don't want to switch from the tried, tested, and shitty internet explorer.


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Surreal JRS
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Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Kicking it in Toronto, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by loca
Yes but!...

<snip>

Go go Firefox


You rock loca!


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