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Michael May
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LOL. Good way of putting it.

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thanks for everyones info!!!

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SteelWolf
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AIFF all the way.. toally uncompressed
takes a bitch of a computer to paly them tho


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abnorm
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It's all about the original source and how the file was encoded. Converting a poor quality MP3 file into a WAV format would not make any sense at all for example unless you are using software like Final Scratch on a very slow PC. (WAV files take less CPU recouces to play back and manipulate then MP3s since MP3s have to be decoded as they are being played back.) If you are ripping a record onto your computer with proper hardware and software that's a different story. When I rip vinyls to my PC I keep them in a WAV format or 192-320kbps MP3s at max setting. Most people who notice the difference on their average home audio systems between 192kbps or higher MP3s and WAVs are probably listening to downloaded MP3s with crappy quality which were ripped by amateurs. Unfortuntly that is the case a lot of times unless you are getting your MP3s from an online record shop which encodes them directly from the original source. (Those sound awesome!) Try ripping a CD with a good encoder, like LAME Encoder, into a 192kbps MP3 file and see if you can hear a difference. You probably won't unless you have some high fidelity equipment and are very picky about sound quality (which you might be). Another thing to consider is it seems to be more common for a CD of a certain track to sound much better then the Vinyl version of the same track. A lot of record labels go with cheap vinyl pressings that sound like crap compared to CDs. Sure, vinyl records have the potential to sound better, but only when properly pressed from a high quality original source.

For converting files to MP3 format and ability to do much more I recommend Easy CD-DA Extractor. It uses the LAME encoder (one of the best) and is very easy to use.

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It's all about the original source and how the file was encoded. Converting a poor quality MP3 file into a WAV format would not make any sense at all for example unless you are using software like Final Scratch on a very slow PC. (WAV files take less CPU recouces to play back and manipulate then MP3s since MP3s have to be decoded as they are being played back.) If you are ripping a record onto your computer with proper hardware and software that's a different story. When I rip vinyls to my PC I keep them in a WAV format or 192-320kbps MP3s at max setting. Most people who notice the difference on their average home audio systems between 192kbps or higher MP3s and WAVs are probably listening to downloaded MP3s with crappy quality which were ripped by amateurs. Unfortuntly that is the case a lot of times unless you are getting your MP3s from an online record shop which encodes them directly from the original source. (Those sound awesome!) Try ripping a CD with a good encoder, like LAME Encoder, into a 192kbps MP3 file and see if you can hear a difference. You probably won't unless you have some high fidelity equipment and are very picky about sound quality (which you might be). Another thing to consider is it seems to be more common for a CD of a certain track to sound much better then the Vinyl version of the same track. A lot of record labels go with cheap vinyl pressings that sound like crap compared to CDs. Sure, vinyl records have the potential to sound better, but only when properly pressed from a high quality original source.

For converting files to MP3 format and ability to do much more I recommend Easy CD-DA Extractor. It uses the LAME encoder (one of the best) and is very easy to use.


Very Good Advice, It all depends on the source and also the quality it was recorded in, For example, in Sony Sound Forge, when you render an MP3 you have 3 choices: Fastest Encode, Middle, and Best Quality. I can render a vinyl in 128k, at Best Quality, and it will sound halfway decent on a loud system. I have some CD's ripped at 128k and they sound great. Its also, as abnorm said, very important where the original source is from, Itunes' has there music in 128k AAC, when converted to 320k mp3 and played back, they sound excellent.

I guess for a rule, encode at 192k or higher, just as a failsafe for a loud sound system


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Soliman
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it depends mp3 when played on high volume sounds awfull but if youre gonna play it on low a volume and you have a cdj wich supports mp3 format stick with mp3 other that that use wav

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MERiDiAN5i2
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256kbit Ogg Vorbis.

If you can tell the difference from an uncompressed wav, your either hallucinating or have some really good monitors and a very sensitive ear!

I personally think OGG sounds alot cleaner than MP3.

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Originally posted by MERiDiAN5i2
256kbit Ogg Vorbis.

If you can tell the difference from an uncompressed wav, your either hallucinating or have some really good monitors and a very sensitive ear!

I personally think OGG sounds alot cleaner than MP3.


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Ogg ownzu.

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