Be it a joke or not, it's not hard to see the point he's getting at. Ferry was a huge influence of the 99 trance sound, and for that many people also tried to conform to 'that' sound. Which when using hindsight is a pretty shit one too many. He played a big part in steering trance in the direction that it has gone today, and for that he is shit, and can be said to have killed it. I like a fair share of his older productions, but I also agree somewhat with Ishkur here. Anything after and including Punk is complete dog shit in my opinion, but that's not what Ishkurs guide is getting at. Hope that clears things up.

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Originally posted by DarkAngel Damn right. Screw that kuntrag.

Why? Because he doesn't like Ferry Corsten? Grow the fuck up.

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Originally posted by Dazdaking Be it a joke or not, it's not hard to see the point he's getting at. Ferry was a huge influence of the 99 trance sound, and for that many people also tried to conform to 'that' sound. Which when using hindsight is a pretty shit one too many. He played a big part in steering trance in the direction that it has gone today, and for that he is shit, and can be said to have killed it. I like a fair share of his older productions, but I also agree somewhat with Ishkur here. Anything after and including Punk is complete dog shit in my opinion, but that's not what Ishkurs guide is getting at. Hope that clears things up.

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Ishkur's website sux. Not just cuz I think he's a fool, but the website really does suck. I guess he just really likes using Paint.

Define "killed". If Ferry Corsten killed trance by changing it's sound, then Oliver Lieb killed it, Paul van Dyk killed it and Robert Miles also killed it. Not to mention Oakenfold killing it. Ishkur can't accept that a genre has evolved, merely because he dislikes what it has become.

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Opinions, assholes, ad nauseum, repeat.

The EDM Guide is pretty cool. i like how he layed everything out and gives sound samples too.

Good work



BTW

Once ferry started playing that 'electro' shit he started to suck ass

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Originally posted by Blue Balls BTW Once ferry started playing that 'electro' shit he started to suck ass

I can assure you what he plays and produces is by no means 'electro.'

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Originally posted by Dazdaking I can assure you what he plays and produces is by no means 'electro.'

hence the ' '

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Ishkur's Guide is meant to entertain not inform. Read the disclaimer. Don't hate him if you can't take a joke. I've read it in the past and found a lot of humorous.

tm

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Originally posted by millst Ishkur's Guide is meant to entertain not inform. Read the disclaimer. Don't hate him if you can't take a joke. I've read it in the past and found a lot of humorous. tm

Actually it's 100% accurate . Read his description of dutch trance. I almost fell on the floor laughing. It's soo true but he has a clever/funny way of describing it.

Look at his description of prog. Soooo true . But funny as hell how he described how people use the term .

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