I have respect for TTC employees but I do think they are already paid enough and with good benefits. There is no reason to hold the public hostage at your own expense.

I can easy use my car to get around but I do use the system to save myself the hassle of parking, but there are a lot of people out there that won't be able to feed their child if the buses don't run.

Can the bus system even go on stike? Legally-wise? There are professions that cannot go on strike like firefighters and paramedics.

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess I have respect for TTC employees but I do think they are already paid enough and with good benefits. There is no reason to hold the public hostage at your own expense. I can easy use my car to get around but I do use the system to save myself the hassle of parking, but there are a lot of people out there that won't be able to feed their child if the buses don't run. Can the bus system even go on stike? Legally-wise? There are professions that cannot go on strike like firefighters and paramedics.

nor should our teachers, those assholes...

also did you know that liquor store employess are not allowed to strike.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 they already make too much money to drive a bus Time to privatize and get rid of the union.

you have NOOO fukin idea what your talkin about dude....NONE....no clue...I'd like to see YOU drive a loaded bus for hours & most likely get verbaly or physically abused from thugs or other rude passengers.It happens EVERY fukin day...all you have to do is listen to the communications between the TTC inspectors & central control to get an idea and its only getting worse...I wouldn't do it even if I got payed MORE then what I make now...

I (as some of you know already) repair/maintain the buses for the TTC & I've been doing that for several years now.I have a CZ drivers license in order to road test buses & whenever I was on the road to change off a bus, I would also get shit thrown at me & I'M JUST A MECHANIC

Let me remind you of ANOTHER fact...TTC management gave THEMSELVES a 5% raise a few months ago & whatever WE get in our contract SO WILL THEY.So in effect they will get another raise

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Originally posted by Carney nor should our teachers, those assholes... also did you know that liquor store employess are not allowed to strike.

ha ha!

that figures.

can't have the booze go on strike but fuck public transport.

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess ha ha! that figures. can't have the booze go on strike but fuck public transport.

i aint complaining though...

but honestly could you imagine a city with out booze the crime rate would drop big time
except for all the bootleggin and mouthwash drinking

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Originally posted by RobbyG. you have NOOO fukin idea what your talkin about dude....NONE....no clue...I'd like to see YOU drive a loaded bus for hours & most likely get verbaly or physically abused from thugs or other rude passengers.It happens EVERY fukin day...all you have to do is listen to the communications between the TTC inspectors & central control to get an idea and its only getting worse...I wouldn't do it even if I got payed MORE then what I make now... I (as some of you know already) repair/maintain the buses for the TTC & I've been doing that for several years now.I have a CZ drivers license in order to road test buses & whenever I was on the road to change off a bus, I would also get shit thrown at me & I'M JUST A MECHANIC Let me remind you of ANOTHER fact...TTC management gave THEMSELVES a 5% raise a few months ago & whatever WE get in our contract SO WILL THEY.So in effect they will get another raise

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I'm not saying it's bad i'm just saying that they are gettnig paid enough as it is and they are crying for more (not for the first time). They are getting paid as it is WELL above the Canadian average, granted living in TO is expensive and it's a "humble" profession but come on...

This is from stats Canada...

Average earnings by sex and work pattern
(All earners) All earners
Year --Women -- Men -- Earnings ratio

2001 -- 25,100 -- 39,100 -- 64.1
2002 -- 25,300 -- 38,900 -- 65.2

They are being paid well over 45K according to this on average...




And why my friends should be getting paid more? Well they are not really my friends just a few people I know. They've invested thousands and thousands of dollars into their education, they are considered highly educated professionals....so you do the math...for them it's now more worth it to go drive a bus instead.

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You guys have to realize that this is just a stupid game played out by our union & TTC management...Even Moscoe said that today...I kinda doubt that we will walk and hope we don't .If there is a strike, the government would legislate us back to work like last time...


As a licensed "Coach Technician" for the TTC, the drivers outnumber the us (non drivers) by 4 to 1 and so even if our group didn't want to strike & the drivers do, then "we" have no choice.Thats why alot of my other mechanic friends wished we had our own seperate union.

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[i][b] They've invested thousands and thousands of dollars into their education, they are considered highly educated professionals....so you do the math...for them it's now more worth it to go drive a bus instead.

Its a huge shame I know & some drivers HAVE that kind of education.They joined the TTC for the money because they couldn't find anything in their area of expertese...

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Originally posted by RobbyG. Its a huge shame I know & some drivers HAVE that kind of education.They joined the TTC for the money because they couldn't find anything in their area of expertese...

exactly...and i'm not saying that TTC is BAD i'm jsut saying that it shouldn't be this way! People graduating with a Bachelor of Science can't find jobs. New immigrants with PhDs and Doctors can't work in Canada so they drive cabs...meanwhile these guys are crying over a 2% increase in wages difference. Something's not right here...

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Originally posted by starsearcher They are getting paid as it is WELL above the Canadian average, granted living in TO is expensive and it's a "humble" profession but come on...

Where does this idea of humble bus driver come from? Does everyone think like this? Do you really think of bus drivers as a low status job? I would be a bus driver but 1) I suck at driving 2) I hate people and 3) I hate people when driving.

Low status job = dishwasher at a restaurant.