What I have done on occasion is had a mix of two songs recorded on a CD. But never with the pretense that I was doing the mix. Simple reason being that I wanted to do something over the top of it and had other things in mind and the place I was playing didn't have three decks or alternatively the trick that I wished to carry out was beyond my ability to mix and trick at the same time.

However, yes it's true on occassion that some of the top jocks have been known to do this.
Personally I'm not sure if it's even legally acceptable in terms of contract. If a DJ came on before or after me and played a whole set off one CD and pretended to do it I think I would have to speak my mind.
While it's sad in itself one also has to question what the point of doing that would be. It's devastating to your rep and makes me ask the question why even bother. If you find it that boring to DJ why do you do it?

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Yea i would do that.........


only if the 3 turntables at the club i play at blew up/stopped working and out of 3 cdj only 1 of them worked. Yea sure thats when i would pop the prerecorded mix.

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 What I have done on occasion is had a mix of two songs recorded on a CD. (...)

Good idea if you need to go to the toilet
But otherwise, I just find it plain stupid to pre-record whole sets..

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Two things:

A) If someone actually has the balls to go up there and fake a mix (play with the mixer, hold up records, put them on, headphones on, headphones off, spin the record back) when a CD is really playing some premixed stuff...well that's just wrong.

B) I actually saw this happen before. I was at a small club and the DJ was up there workin' the decks. Then this mix comes on for about 20 min that I swear I'd heard before. I finally figure out what the mix was -- Carl Cox and Sven Vath at Love Parade (at least that's what I know it as, not sure what year 99 maybe). I went to the bar, got a drink, and began to laugh...and laughed some more. I go up to the DJ booth and say "Nice job Coxy" I don't think the guy was expecting anyone to know that a) he wasn't mixing b) could identify who did the mix orginally.

Too funny.

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Originally posted by amartinathome B) I actually saw this happen before. I was at a small club and the DJ was up there workin' the decks. Then this mix comes on for about 20 min that I swear I'd heard before. I finally figure out what the mix was -- Carl Cox and Sven Vath at Love Parade (at least that's what I know it as, not sure what year 99 maybe). I went to the bar, got a drink, and began to laugh...and laughed some more. I go up to the DJ booth and say "Nice job Coxy" I don't think the guy was expecting anyone to know that a) he wasn't mixing b) could identify who did the mix orginally. Too funny.

That is pathetic. Hilarious, but pathetic.

if I was the promoter I'd make sure that dj never got a gig in his life. I'd spread it around every music forum I knew.

As someone pointed out. Why do people dj if they don't really like doing it.

i think it depends on the situation...

if you're using a single track from a pre recorded mix then id let it fly(tiesto did this at TIC, oyu can hear the mix coming in right b4 he spins it back and throws in David Forbes - Answers)

if you do whats been explained here where you act as if youre mixing but in reality youre just turning knobs like a douche then you need a swift kick in the ass and your records to be stolen

thats pathetic, why cheat yourself out of a perfectly good oportunity to own the floor?

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Originally posted by RickyM Next thread - trance for listening to when you are halfway down the stairs in your house...

Yea I dunno how people could do that, even is the promoter let me play a CD and the crowd knew about it but wouldn't mind, I'd STILL play live, otherwise I might aswell go hit the bar.

There is one exception I heard not long ago, can't remember the DJ, but they are a pretty well known DJ, anyway he was playing a gig on the back of a moving Semi, and well as you can probably tell, the needles were jumping all over the place, so he had no choice but to throw in a CD and pretend to mix, its messed up, but I don't think thats bad, what else you gonna do, I don't think he had all his music on CD to spin so couldn't do that.

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 What I have done on occasion is had a mix of two songs recorded on a CD. But never with the pretense that I was doing the mix.

I feel as if I may need to expand on this point a little as some of you might be thinking I'm some sort of cheap 'wing it' sort of DJ...

The situation when I do this is mainly when I have two songs one mixing into the other and what I do on the pre recorded CD is beat Juggle between the incoming and outgoing tracks. Keep in mind it's still my skills on the CD so I have still had to put in the practice to learn those skills.

At the same time I will either scratch using a CDJ or 1210 (depending on what's available).

The CD that's got the mix on it also bursts into a key lift so there are a whole lot of things going on in that mix that are just a little too much for me to control.
I'm not saying there isn't turntablists out there that couldn't do it but this just a little too far beyond my own turntablism skills to do all at once.

The way I see it, the end result is effective and people really get a kick out of hearing something different that's packed with energy. In my book this is being creative and working hard to please the crowd, also putting in the work and preparation before hand is not wrong if it means you will give a better performance.

This is something that I will do when going towards the climax of my set and it's only once really that I will do it.

What I do think sounds really wanky on the other hand is when DJ's have pre recorded scratching to play over the top of a track. It's usually played back out of synch and just doens't sound right.

My two euros worth
Nem

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Originally posted by Derivative who cares. if it gets the crowd going then its fine in my books. DJs = entertainers first and foremost. if it entertains - good job. if it consistantly doesnt - please do consider another profession.

a true dj plays the crowd not records

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Originally posted by Soliman It's the things are going with us dj's... Most of us think of it as a job not a way to express yourself threw music... Anyway being a dj meens that you express yourself threw music how can you do that by using a recorded set???

100% Totally agree with you!!

If you didn't pretend you were mixing live, but just sat there, then would it be acceptable?

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Originally posted by nankervis If you didn't pretend you were mixing live, but just sat there, then would it be acceptable?

why would someone need to be there? to press play on the cd deck lol?

for real tho. whats the point of being there with a pre-recorded mix? what are you gonna do? sit there noddin ur head like a chicken ??

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