Harmonic mixing has been around before beatmatching. You should know that if you're such a great DJ thats been around for so long. The thing is if you've been mixing that long you probably ARE mixing harmonically and don't even realize it. I don't see what the big deal it anyway, if you can't mix then you can't mix and knowing the key of your tracks isn't going to save you. So I don't know what you're on about learning the "hard way" because there is no easy way to learn how to DJ. You have 5000 tracks and its probably impractical to go back now and organize a database thats sortable by title/artist/genre/key/bpm but some of us are anal about our music collections and like to do that kind of stuff.

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[QUOTE]some of us are anal about our music collections and like to do that kind of stuff.

Fair Comment - you have too much time on your hands!!

You mean some of us aren't lazy? It takes about 20 seconds to enter that info into an excel spreadsheet while most tracks are 6+ minutes long. Maybe longer if you can't tell the key of your tracks without a little help.

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ouch thread hijacked.

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Originally posted by CosmoKid 1- Many people with a musical background can listen to a tune and determine which key they are in. Some people even use a guitar or keyboard to determine which key their tunes are in. 2- There are only a limited amount of keys your tunes can be in. Look at the sticky at the top of the page to learn more about keys. When you play harmonically (by key), you are not playing an entire set in the same key. You may play a few tunes in a row in the same key, and then switch to another key. Which key you move to is very important. Certain keys work well together and some dont. You need to know whcih do.

+1

alphabetically by arist on the whole.

mixing a whole set in the same key can be somewhat boring so i wouln't advise against organising records like that, although if you can't pick key it may be helpful to find out and write it down on the front if you get stuck and need a tune to mix next that will sound good even if it doesnt flow how you would want it to

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Originally posted by MessiahProject Ok I think we should beg to differ on this one!! If you wouldnt drop in a tune because it would ruin your set, then you are not really Djing for the crowd, you are doing it for yourself and what the set sounds like rather than how the crowd react - obviously there are certain limits (definately wouldnt entertain a request for Whigfield!) Different opinions are good though - thats what makes a good debate!

just gotta say that you and the person you are debating with are the most grown up and mature ppl on here, anyone else would turn it into a big flaming war, im glad to see people agree to differ and actually accept that others have their own thoughts and opinions.

also i dont mix strictly in key, i do just mix any old track some of the time. i kinda know what will go with what anyway cos iv heard so many live sets.

cheers

Thats what I love about this forum. You can't ask a serious question anywhere else without getting stupid answers and flames.

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I used to do it all alphabetically, but now I'm wacking it together by genere and in each genre they are organized in key. I don't mix in key 100% of the time (I've only been doing it for a month) but when you do it it does create a pretty cool effect. I just had to laugh at the comment that made harmonic mixing sound like cheating. I'm sorry but you can key all your tunes but if you can't do any of the basics of DJ'ing then you're still screwed.

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Originally posted by eyeball_2003 iv got mine sorted by key at the minute, find it helps for better sounding mixes

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Same here.

I also got them in order from softer --> harder beats.

So like my first crate would have songs like whiteroom - someday and my last crate would have songs like aplhazone - flashback.

mainly on label,and then from soft 2 hard

I have all my slower stuff up front as well.

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alphabetical
(granted i do only have 73 records)