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montie
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as to DJ's, look into booking only a local NYC DJ. pulling in a DJ from another country or just out of state can get pretty pricey for travel costs, lodging and living costs. also their price for playing will tend to be more anyway.
try to get a local DJ who throws their own events in NYC and has a nice following.
definatly don't take out a loan. start small. look to just make enough money to cover the costs of the events.
and yes promotion is key. throw around more flyers than you need. bombared on email lists and stuff like myspace.
all this type of promotion only brings in a small amount of people, but you really have to overdo it.
your going to get most of your guests through your friends and your friends of friends.
also look for a nice club/bar that has a good local crowd that tends to go there no matter what night it is.

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Zack Roth
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: .....

quote:
Originally posted by montie
as to DJ's, look into booking only a local NYC DJ. pulling in a DJ from another country or just out of state can get pretty pricey for travel costs, lodging and living costs. also their price for playing will tend to be more anyway.
try to get a local DJ who throws their own events in NYC and has a nice following.
definatly don't take out a loan. start small. look to just make enough money to cover the costs of the events.
and yes promotion is key. throw around more flyers than you need. bombared on email lists and stuff like myspace.
all this type of promotion only brings in a small amount of people, but you really have to overdo it.
your going to get most of your guests through your friends and your friends of friends.
also look for a nice club/bar that has a good local crowd that tends to go there no matter what night it is.


thanks for the reply. Well, I was looking into havign some local kids spin the party, but as openers and closers for a main guy like the ones I mentioned. The trance scene in NYC is non existent outside of the overpriced mega clubs. I thought it would be cool to bring in some smaller big named DJs that have never played in NYC before and basically have talented local DJs get some exposure by opening and closing. I'm not really too concerned with making a lot of money. I just want to do something a little different and see if I can pull it off.

Question...everyone has mentioned getting a sponsor...what kind of peopel should I be getting in contact about something like that?

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CosmoKid
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: New Jersey, USA

quote:
Originally posted by zizack
thanks for the reply. Well, I was looking into havign some local kids spin the party, but as openers and closers for a main guy like the ones I mentioned. The trance scene in NYC is non existent outside of the overpriced mega clubs. I thought it would be cool to bring in some smaller big named DJs that have never played in NYC before and basically have talented local DJs get some exposure by opening and closing. I'm not really too concerned with making a lot of money. I just want to do something a little different and see if I can pull it off.

Question...everyone has mentioned getting a sponsor...what kind of peopel should I be getting in contact about something like that?


Probably the marketing department at the company.

Zack. Good luck with this. You know about the party that my friends through a few weeks ago with Ben Lost. They lost a ton of money on that party. The venue was a cool one, the DJ is just about the level that you are looking to bring in. Maybe the timing was bad on it, but like 75 people showed up for it. It cost about $1800 for Ben and his travel/hotel expenses.

2 weeks before that was Steve Gerrard. They had about 110 people at that show. Steve was cheaper and is sort of a friend to the guy who threw the party.

Most bigger DJs request certain euipment as well. They wont make due with an old gemini mixer and beat up cd player that some of these smaller clubs have.

The tough part about throwing these parties in NYC is that a lot of people who are supposedly into this music are only really into the scene. They come out for the big names only, or the really hyped parties that "everyone is going to".

They dont wake up from a Saturday nap and say "who is playing tonight that I should check out", they say "where is everyone going to be tonight."

Of course there are exceptions.

good luck.


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Michael May
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Registered: Sep 2004
Location: Detroit

quote:
Originally posted by zizack
thanks for the reply. Well, I was looking into havign some local kids spin the party, but as openers and closers for a main guy like the ones I mentioned. The trance scene in NYC is non existent outside of the overpriced mega clubs. I thought it would be cool to bring in some smaller big named DJs that have never played in NYC before and basically have talented local DJs get some exposure by opening and closing. I'm not really too concerned with making a lot of money. I just want to do something a little different and see if I can pull it off.

Question...everyone has mentioned getting a sponsor...what kind of peopel should I be getting in contact about something like that?

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Michael May
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Registered: Sep 2004
Location: Detroit

quote:
Originally posted by zizack
thanks for the reply. Well, I was looking into havign some local kids spin the party, but as openers and closers for a main guy like the ones I mentioned. The trance scene in NYC is non existent outside of the overpriced mega clubs. I thought it would be cool to bring in some smaller big named DJs that have never played in NYC before and basically have talented local DJs get some exposure by opening and closing. I'm not really too concerned with making a lot of money. I just want to do something a little different and see if I can pull it off.

Question...everyone has mentioned getting a sponsor...what kind of peopel should I be getting in contact about something like that?

My bad on the last post. Anyway, contact clubplanet.com. They are a huge promotion company based in NYC. They may be able to help you. If not, they will be able to point you in the right direction. Talk to Dave, and tell him Mike in Michigan told you to contact them. Like I said, I'm not sure if they will be able to help you, but if not they will turn you on to the people that can.

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JakeC
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Registered: Mar 2005
Location: Birmingham

or you could have a dj competition, as then the dj brings his/her mates to watch so you got atleast 50 people if 5 people enter, then promotoe with a dj on the night aswell

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Zack Roth
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: .....

quote:
Originally posted by CosmoKid
Probably the marketing department at the company.

Zack. Good luck with this. You know about the party that my friends through a few weeks ago with Ben Lost. They lost a ton of money on that party. The venue was a cool one, the DJ is just about the level that you are looking to bring in. Maybe the timing was bad on it, but like 75 people showed up for it. It cost about $1800 for Ben and his travel/hotel expenses.

2 weeks before that was Steve Gerrard. They had about 110 people at that show. Steve was cheaper and is sort of a friend to the guy who threw the party.

Most bigger DJs request certain euipment as well. They wont make due with an old gemini mixer and beat up cd player that some of these smaller clubs have.

The tough part about throwing these parties in NYC is that a lot of people who are supposedly into this music are only really into the scene. They come out for the big names only, or the really hyped parties that "everyone is going to".

They dont wake up from a Saturday nap and say "who is playing tonight that I should check out", they say "where is everyone going to be tonight."

Of course there are exceptions.

good luck.


yeah...see, when I saw that Ben Lost was in NYC I thought to myself, wow, thats so cool. Guys like that never get booked. Its a shame no one really turned out for it. This summer some of my friends brought Dumonde and Lange to Shelter....another great idea, but numbers weren't great. But the fact that all those kids had to initiative to try something new was really cool. I feel like given the right preparation, right contacts and some hard work,a party like this could work. I've been PMing Nemesis44 and we both agree that it might even be a cool idea to make it like a TA night of sorts...like TAs opening and closing for a smaller big name like the guys I mentioned. I think something like that could work. It would be cool to have some fresh faces come into the country and also give some talented local guys some exposure of playing with a global DJ. Don't get me wrong, I love hitting up Spirit for guys like Armin, but that gets monotonous after awhile.
In termsof the equipment, I have a pretty decent set up that I doubt any DJ would bitch about using....xone 92,techs and cdj 1000s...I'd be happy to use them for something like this./

In terms of the DJ competition idea...idk how feasable that is alongside a bigger named DJ....all the djs would be throwing out bangers before someone like Ozgur Can came on and it wouldn't work.


Thanks for the input though guys.

btw...some more names I came up with today that i think could go over well....

Nathan Fake
Remy
Lemon 8
Jon O Bir
Noel Sanger
Ozgur Can
Matthew Dekay
Roland Klinkenberg
Meat Katie
Grayarea

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Allied Nations
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: MTHELL

contact liqor companies, radio stations, energy drink companies, cell phone providers, anthing with moeny behind it that young people use.

oh and book Meat Katie and Mathew Dekay. For sure, have 2 rooms in the party. one for each 8 hour extended sets from both...

omgidie.


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Inertia
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Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic

about those DJ selections...

all are very good, and right about up your alley, except for the first... you sure you know what Nathan Fake spins? i've only heard one set of his to tell the truth, but judging by that, and his productions, and the types of DJs that play his productions (i'm not talking about just Outhouse, rather stuff like his new Dinamo EP and such, his 'less accessible' tracks) he is NOT anywhere near compatible with trance DJs. some slightly abstract or borderline-techy prog perhaps, but even that's a stretch, as he goes more for electro/german techno/minimal/glitch/bleep techno and the like.

not to discourage you, i think it is a great idea, especially if you like his music, but you may get an unhappy crowd. many people think he is prog for some odd reason, go out, see him, listen to this crazy glitchy music, and say he was playing a shitty set. i'm generalizing from what normally happens when people go to see Holden thinking they're in for a night of trance or melodic prog... and Holden likes a little prog, Nathan, well, not so much.

just something to ponder before you make a decision. if i were you, i'd go for someone slightly more accessible, more well-known for his DJing.

Remy, Lemon 8, Ozgur Can and Matthew Dekay i think are you strongest choices, because IMO you simply can't go wrong, and they pretty much just seem draw a large crowd, with emphasis on the 2nd and 3rd choices.


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Zack Roth
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haha, yeah, I know very much what he plays. I have two of his sets, and one is just kind of weird ambient music for the first half. I listed guys that i would really love to see play basically. and idk, guys from overseas tend to play a little harder over here, and I assumed that he'd be smart enough to realize if he was putting people to sleep. but I see where you're coming from though...there are better suited guys out there of course..
I know Remy would draw a crowd...he's killed it his last 3 times here and people love him. I've heard lemon 8 live before in the UK and know he'd rock it, but not sure if he'd draw major crowd over here. To my knowlegde, Dekay and OC haven't played NYC yet, so they would be a first which I thought was cool.

Thanks for the input.

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Soliman
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Registered: Mar 2005
Location: cairo

quote:
Originally posted by zizack
Question...everyone has mentioned getting a sponsor...what kind of peopel should I be getting in contact about something like that?


Get in contact with the PR department.
Don't forget to tell them that you are finishing a deal with another/rival company.
When i planed a party i called pepsi told them i am finshing a deal with coca cola..
Always works


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Allied Nations
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Registered: Mar 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by Soliman
Get in contact with the PR department.
Don't forget to tell them that you are finishing a deal with another/rival company.
When i planed a party i called pepsi told them i am finshing a deal with coca cola..
Always works


but coke is so much BETTAR!!!


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