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Originally posted by wwu.punisher Obviously, you haven't read some of the books published by the Pope... who happens to be your religious leader if you're a Catholic.

so i have to follow and do everything the pope say because im a baptised cathloic? fuck man, for the most part im on your side, the thing that pisses me off is that you say this, but dont get every side to the arguments that you make. the pope, and the CATHLOIC CHRUCH in a lot of cases is retarded. consirvative thinking dosent appeal to me, i dont get it. but DO NOT LUMP ALL CATHLOICS INTO ONE GROUP. again. i point to the osama = all muslims analogy.

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Originally posted by cycloptor so i have to follow and do everything the pope say because im a baptised cathloic? fuck man, for the most part im on your side, the thing that pisses me off is that you say this, but dont get every side to the arguments that you make. the pope, and the CATHLOIC CHRUCH in a lot of cases is retarded. consirvative thinking dosent appeal to me, i dont get it. but DO NOT LUMP ALL CATHLOICS INTO ONE GROUP. again. i point to the osama = all muslims analogy.

Once again... if you do not agree with what the Pope and his bishops say, many people in the church do not recognize you as Catholic. It's in the damn books. Go read them before you argue with me. According to the Catholic "rules", the Pope is the direct connection between God and men. Therefore, his word is essentially God's word.

If you don't believe me, look it up.

I'm not trying to point a finger at you, specifically. I'm pointing a finger at Catholics, by the strict definition of the word. There is a difference between being "Catholic" and being CATHOLIC. Understand my meaning?

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Originally posted by wwu.punisher Once again... if you do not agree with what the Pope and his bishops say, many people in the church do not recognize you as Catholic. It's in the damn books. Go read them before you argue with me. According to the Catholic "rules", the Pope is the direct connection between God and men. Therefore, his word is essentially God's word. If you don't believe me, look it up.

i do believe you. i know what "the books" say. but what you dont get, or are at least appearing no to get, is that religion and faith isnt that anymore. its power and politics, and has been for a very long time. and thats what has ruined major organized religions.

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Originally posted by cycloptor i do believe you. i know what "the books" say. but what you dont get, or are at least appearing no to get, is that religion and faith isnt that anymore. its power and politics, and has been for a very long time. and thats what has ruined major organized religions.

I completely, one hundred percent agree with you. Organized religions are corrupt, in general, which is why I don't go to church. It's also why I like to argue with people who do go to church.

I've said this to my roommate several times in the past. It always just causes him to get up and leave the room... which just pisses me off, more.

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Originally posted by wwu.punisher Granted... but Catholics are the ones who always end up in the news, and they're the ones who have the most power over the mass media. Thus, it's Catholic viewpoints that are disseminated through major news sources most often. (i.e. CNN, FoxNews, etc.)

Actually I would say Christians are in the news more considering Bush is a Christian, Catholics do not take a literal interpretation of the bible (and hence generally believe in evolution), and they're simply nowhere near as nutty as evangelicals.

I used to have a great article on these whacky anti-abortion Christian women who would secretly get abortions. Then after the abortion they went back to protesting against abortion clinics. Fucking nut jobs.

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Originally posted by wwu.punisher I completely, one hundred percent agree with you. Organized religions are corrupt, in general, which is why I don't go to church. It's also why I like to argue with people who do go to church. I've said this to my roommate several times in the past. It always just causes him to get up and leave the room... which just pisses me off, more.

lol....ok, so at least we're on the same page here i think. but why bring it up with the roommate if it bothers you both that much. the other thing is that religion is very very personal to some people. and that honestly, they just do not see the other side of it. so, good for them. as long as they are happy, and not forcing their shit down my throat, i leave them be.

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Originally posted by occrider Actually I would say Christians are in the news more considering Bush is a Christian, Catholics do not take a literal interpretation of the bible (and hence generally believe in evolution), and they're simply nowhere near as nutty as evangelicals.

I don't mean "in the news" in terms of being physically there so much as I mean their messages being present. The Catholic church has an unbelievable amount of money... you'd be surprised how often they have an influence over what makes it into the news.

But yes, as far as Christians go, they're definitely "in the news" in a physical sense a lot more often.

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I'm Catholic too!


But let me guess...your roommate is trying to force feed Catholicism down your throat?

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You're an idiot.
A Catholic does not have to beleive in everything the pope says. A Christian does not have to beleive in everything the bible says. A Buddhist does not always follow all of the teachings of buddha.

People should choose their religion based on which one they beleive has the best values, and fits their lifestyle best.

Its ignorant racist fucks like you that make me feel bad to be an athiest. All catholics arent the same as the backwards ones you've ran into in your backwards country. Besides I bet you've met way more catholics than you know, its only the extremely fucked up ones that make it all obvious.

A good few of the posters above just proved it, I bet you never knew they were catholics, and they are probably fine people.

Look at yourself, you're just as bad as the catholics you're talking about are. All catholics arent like you think they are, just like all athiests dont speak as stupidly as you do. Being anticatholic isnt a cool thing to do anymore you know?

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Originally posted by BOOM ZIG BOOM!! You're an idiot. A Catholic does not have to beleive in everything the pope says. A Christian does not have to beleive in everything the bible says. A Buddhist does not always follow all of the teachings of buddha. People should choose their religion based on which one they beleive has the best values, and fits their lifestyle best. Its ignorant racist fucks like you that make me feel bad to be an athiest. All catholics arent the same as the backwards ones you've ran into in your backwards country. Besides I bet you've met way more catholics than you know, its only the extremely fucked up ones that make it all obvious. A good few of the posters above just proved it, I bet you never knew they were catholics, and they are probably fine people. Look at yourself, you're just as bad as the catholics you're talking about are. All catholics arent like you think they are, just like all athiests dont speak as stupidly as you do. Being anticatholic isnt a cool thing to do anymore you know?

I'm betting you're in high school, where it's "cool" to call yourself an atheist. (By the way, if you're going to label yourself... please spell the word correctly. It makes you look rather dumb, otherwise.)

I've never made a racist comment in my life. Thanks. You just lost all credibility right there. Religion has nothing to do with race.

And Catholics wear their religion on their sleeve, just like any other religion. Put me in a room with someone for an hour and I could tell you whether or not they're Catholic. Or Christian. Or Muslim. It's impossible for anyone who is devoted to their religion to keep their mouth shut when something that they don't agree with shows up in the news or in a conversation.

And I never said anything about Catholics as people. I said the religion itself is chock-full of crap.

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Originally posted by wwu.punisher I'm betting you're in high school, where it's "cool" to call yourself an atheist. (By the way, if you're going to label yourself... please spell the word correctly. It makes you look rather dumb, otherwise.) I've never made a racist comment in my life. Thanks. You just lost all credibility right there. Religion has nothing to do with race. And Catholics wear their religion on their sleeve, just like any other religion. Put me in a room with someone for an hour and I could tell you whether or not they're Catholic. Or Christian. Or Muslim. It's impossible for anyone who is devoted to their religion to keep their mouth shut when something that they don't agree with shows up in the news or in a conversation. And I never said anything about Catholics as people. I said the religion itself is chock-full of crap.

Well, I'm going to prove you wrong because while I'm catholic I respect your views. That implies not arguing over this because I do not feel like imposing my views over yours. That said, to each their own.