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fastmp3
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the pro-life activists should help starving people instead


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MisterOpus1
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Registered: Dec 2001
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One more blog I ran across before I go home today. Answers some basic questions:

http://majikthise.typepad.com/majik...king_lies_.html

And she references this website that has a very good chronology of events as well as the court cases in .pdf format that should answer any and all medical questions:

http://abstractappeal.com/schiavo/infopage.html


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Shakka
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quote:
Originally posted by MisterOpus1


That blog is titled, "World O'Crap!"

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LiquidX
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Disconect her.. let her go to Heaven and rest in peace.. she's in a persistent vegetative state.


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MisterOpus1
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quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
That blog is titled, "World O'Crap!"


Yeah I know, cute huh?

Some more info. debunking Coulter's crud:

The CAT scan of Terri's brain:

http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archiv...schiavos-brain/

And here's what one of the actual doctors who've ACTUALLY diagnosed her had to say:

quote:
Dr. Ronald Cranford, a neurologist and medical ethicist at the University of Minnesota Medical School who has examined Ms. Schiavo on behalf of the Florida courts and declared her to be irredeemably brain-damaged, said, "I have no idea who this Cheshire is," and added: "He has to be bogus, a pro-life fanatic. You'll not find any credible neurologist or neurosurgeon to get involved at this point and say she's not vegetative."

He said there was no doubt that Ms. Schiavo was in a persistent vegetative state. "Her CAT scan shows massive shrinkage of the brain," he said. "Her EEG is flat - flat. There's no electrical activity coming from her brain."

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/24/n...l/24doctor.html


I'm not in physical therapy school yet - that starts in June. Hell I'm not exactly sure how much medical diagnosis stuff I'll have to learn. But I feel pretty confident to say that a CAT scan like hers and a flat EEG ain't good, and it certainly does not support those quacks and pundits like Coulter who obviously haven't read the court cases in very much detail.


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Shakka
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Originally posted by MisterOpus1
I'm not in physical therapy school yet - that starts in June. Hell I'm not exactly sure how much medical diagnosis stuff I'll have to learn. But I feel pretty confident to say that a CAT scan like hers and a flat EEG ain't good, and it certainly does not support those quacks and pundits like Coulter who obviously haven't read the court cases in very much detail.


Hey, ignorance is bliss. She could be in her own personal paradise for all we know!

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nic01445
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quote:
Originally posted by LiquidX
Disconect her.. let her go to Heaven and rest in peace.. she's in a persistent vegetative state.


what if she goes to hell?

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I'd kick her in the baby maker

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Petrogad
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personally this case is the stupidest thing ever, the US Congress is wasting so much time on this its sick... There are many people with similar issues like this yet Congress seems fit to look at this one and spend an amazing amount of time and tax payers money, good thing they arnt focusing on whats important... social security, medicare or terrorism but we are worried about one individual. Id put money on some huge cash scandel that went down becuase this shouldnt be having THIS MUCH ATTENTION paid to it by the Us Congress.

Yes its a tradgey but seriously, congress cant help america out one person at a time.

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The Peach
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jesus h christ, is this chic ever gonna croak? 15 years on life support, enough already.

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Fir3start3r
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada

Hopefully the boney bulimia girls are taking note...

One particular and very important subject matter that has been overshadowed (understatement) out of this whole debate is how she (can we call her "she"?) got to this point in the first place.
I've not heard nor seen one column/report on this subject in relation to Terri Schiavo...
It's not unconceivable that it could happen again...

This is a hard one for me to decide which side of the fence to be on.
While I do understand the arguements that the husband would like to move on with this life, to me, he already had and it questions the validity of 'marriage' for me per say.
If you're only going to mutter the words, "...in sickness and in health..." and not mean it, then I guess this is the free ticket I've been waiting for...(joking...I really do love my wife!)
Furthermore, to have two kids out of wedlock/adultry? while asking for your former? wife's dismise just doesn't really strike a good chord with me; I know that emotion is a falicy in this instance but everyone has a right to their own opinion.
It's almost the polar argument of the Stem Cell case in what constitutes a fetus as being human.
When is an adult human not human?

In regards to Coultier's rantings, I'm going to guess that her arguement about the medical tests could be in reference to this:
http://abstractappeal.com/schiavo/t...order030905.pdf
where March 9, 2005 Judge Greer denies Schindlers' motion requesting new tests? given the date of Coultier's column, March 24th.


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Shakka
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Originally posted by Fir3start3r
This is a hard one for me to decide which side of the fence to be on.
While I do understand the arguements that the husband would like to move on with this life, to me, he already had and it questions the validity of 'marriage' for me per say.
If you're only going to mutter the words, "...in sickness and in health..." and not mean it, then I guess this is the free ticket I've been waiting for...(joking...I really do love my wife!)
Furthermore, to have two kids out of wedlock/adultry? while asking for your former? wife's dismise just doesn't really strike a good chord with me; I know that emotion is a falicy in this instance but everyone has a right to their own opinion.
It's almost the polar argument of the Stem Cell case in what constitutes a fetus as being human.


This is where I absolutely agree with you. The man turned his back on his wife a long time ago, and I believe that at that point, her parents should've become the legal guardians. And that furthermore, as long as they could afford to keep treating her, then they should've been allowed to do so. If Terri is not in pain then what does 1 more year on top of 15 really do other than point out how sad and uniquely crazy this whole case is? Admittedly, I'm still having fence issues myself. It is so hard to let go of someone you care for so much.

And to Peach...this story just keeps on going!
quote:
ATLANTA (AP) - A federal appeals court early Wednesday agreed to consider a petition for a new hearing on whether to reconnect Terri Schiavo's feeding tube.

The ruling by the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals came as the severely brain-damaged woman entered her 13th day without nourishment.

Schiavo's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, have maintained that Schiavo would want to be kept alive and have asked the courts to intervene. Schiavo's husband, Michael, insists he is carrying out her wishes by having the feeding tube pulled.


I will say, that for someone who didn't want to be kept alive like this, Terri sure is putting up a helluva fight! 12 days without food and water--if she had no will to live, I would've expected her to die a long time ago.

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