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zig
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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0
Hmm, well, theoretically yes, but there's a whole lot of other criteria that a country should satisfy to enter the EU.

Perhaps Europe should not be considered as a territorry but rather a cultural group. That way you could invite Australia, New Zealand and the US to join too


or a more cultured territory...and just dont invite the US to join

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George Smiley
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quote:
Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0
Hmm, well, theoretically yes, but there's a whole lot of other criteria that a country should satisfy to enter the EU.

Perhaps Europe should not be considered as a territorry but rather a cultural group. That way you could invite Australia, New Zealand and the US to join too

Yes its called the Copenhagen Criteria and Australia, New Zealand and Canada already qualify! (Suppose America does too but they wouldn't be wanted - in fact, no, they dont qualify as they have the death penalty woo hoo!!)

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Lira
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quote:
Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0
Perhaps Europe should not be considered as a territorry but rather a cultural group. That way you could invite Australia, New Zealand and the US to join too

Hey, what about us? Brazil is as linked to Europe culturally as the US. We just happen not to be rich

In fact, this would probably be true to Latin America as a whole.


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George Smiley
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Originally posted by Lira
Hey, what about us? Brazil is as linked to Europe culturally as the US. We just happen not to be rich

In fact, this would probably be true to Latin America as a whole.

Well if your not rich then you dont meet the Coopenhagen Economic Criteria so see ya!

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Ian
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quote:
Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0
That way you could invite Australia, New Zealand and the US to join too


there was the commonwealth, and all the countries in the end wanted out/independance. I think that they'd not be keen to join the EU/whatever group there is

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Lira
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Well if your not rich then you dont meet the Coopenhagen Economic Criteria so see ya!

Meh, meh, meh


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St_Andrew
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quote:
Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0
Hmm, well, theoretically yes, but there's a whole lot of other criteria that a country should satisfy to enter the EU.

Perhaps Europe should not be considered as a territorry but rather a cultural group. That way you could invite Australia, New Zealand and the US to join too


americans are way to proud to ever join the EU

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St_Andrew
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Well if your not rich then you dont meet the Coopenhagen Economic Criteria so see ya!


isnt the criteria more about stability rather than how rich they actually are?

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imokruok
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1) The EU is the world's largest single market in actual numbers, but is hardly the largest single market in operation. Try and sell the same product in the UK, and then in Poland. Compare it to selling the same product in Alaska and Florida. The internal barriers within the EU are still burdensome - the single market is not there yet.

2) Canada and the US have the largest bilateral trading relationship in the world, and NAFTA plays a huge role in that. The EU does not allow member states to negotiate their own trade treaties. So Canada would probably have to withdraw from NAFTA, thereby negating any economic benefits of joining the EU.

The only reason for Canada to join the EU would be for political spite, and that spite would utterly destroy their economy.


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ali92
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1) The EU is the world's largest single market in actual numbers, but is hardly the largest single market in operation. Try and sell the same product in the UK, and then in Poland. Compare it to selling the same product in Alaska and Florida. The internal barriers within the EU are still burdensome - the single market is not there yet.

2) Canada and the US have the largest bilateral trading relationship in the world, and NAFTA plays a huge role in that. The EU does not allow member states to negotiate their own trade treaties. So Canada would probably have to withdraw from NAFTA, thereby negating any economic benefits of joining the EU.

The only reason for Canada to join the EU would be for political spite, and that spite would utterly destroy their economy.

In reponse to 1: The single market is fast approaching. Just becasue it's not here right now doesn't mean it's not OK to prepare for it, should it be here in about 5 to 10 years.

For #2: How would Canada withdrawling from NAFTA negate any economic benefits of joining the EU?

Thirdly, isn't the EU's charter (& constitution) the most advanced, free, and open-minded charter around? Wouldn't Canada joining the EU make it even more friendly (?) to the world than it is already, as it would show less reliance on the US? After all, many people unfortunately view Canada as a little sister to and even a part of the US! :-(

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isnt the criteria more about stability rather than how rich they actually are?
That's what I thought! Since when did finance come into this picture?! I bet some of the eastern European countries that are now within the EU are more poor than the otherwise eligible South American & Carribean countries.

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Massive84
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The hell with the EU, i hate euro!! and i hate presidents who can't even speak fucking english.


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