Yea seems kind of crappy to me...

What if I downloaded so-and-so tunes from beatport.com, then burnt them to a CD, can I be fined for that? (or does beatport keep records or something, I've never actually d/led from there).


And once I get the funds I'm gonna start transferring vinyl to computer too (though I only have like 30 vinyl ... I'm just thinking ahead :/ ).


And how exactly did they determine that the Italian DJ was using illegal files?

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There would be records of things you buy from Beatport etc (just like any other ecord shop). You buy MP3s from beatport, so its no different to stuff you buy on vinyl or CD.
As for vinyls and stuff, you'll have the originals to prove you own them won't you? Obviously you won't have them there right then, but its easy for you to say "Have a look at my vinyls you fool, i own everything i have on CDR". Remember Freak (or was it Nem?) said they give you a week or so to show proof.

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Originally posted by Freak yes they randomly check MCPS and the prs do random checks at venues for pirate cds. Had two random inspections in the last 8 months personally. Normal procedure is you get a set time to produce originals of any backups you have ( a week or so)

wat if i just buy it when i've been inspected and asked to proove i own a copy ?

Why not just be honest and support the artist and buy their stuff in the first place?
Its the surest way of avoiding trouble

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What if I downloaded so-and-so tunes from beatport.com, then burnt them to a CD, can I be fined for that? (or does beatport keep records or something, I've never actually d/led from there).

if there was a monetary transaction you would have had some sort of internet receipt. it would also show up on your bank statement as a payment to the company that manages beatport finances.

as for that italian DJ. i believe he was doing alot straight from his PC and he had tens of thousands of rips (which he didnt have proof of purchase for). i dont know the specifics but i heard he was pretty blatant about it.

Ok, so If you wanted to play a new track in your set for public hearing, lets just say for example

Carl B - All Day
Interstate - I Found U

Which only was existent on CDR as its Vinyl Release was TBA

Do you have to ask permision from the Producer to play the Track/Carry It on CDR?

Isn't what they call a Promo Copy??? Hence the WhiteLabel/CDR?

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Originally posted by MikHail Ok, so If you wanted to play a new track in your set for public hearing, lets just say for example Carl B - All Day Interstate - I Found U Which only was existent on CDR as its Vinyl Release was TBA Do you have to ask permision from the Producer to play the Track/Carry It on CDR? Isn't what they call a Promo Copy??? Hence the WhiteLabel/CDR?

Good question, I' try and get in contact with the producer and ask for permission.

Is it considered illegal to even have file sharing programs on your computer? --Even if you have legitimate copies of all the songs/videos/programs/etc. ?

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Originally posted by trance85 Is it considered illegal to even have file sharing programs on your computer? --Even if you have legitimate copies of all the songs/videos/programs/etc. ?

no, the programs are legal, as long as you dont share or download any copywrited material. theoretically you can only swap personal files/pictures/etc

razzi

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Originally posted by Freak yes they randomly check MCPS and the prs do random checks at venues for pirate cds. Had two random inspections in the last 8 months personally. Normal procedure is you get a set time to produce originals of any backups you have ( a week or so)

That's the truth.
They do check and they do give you a lot of shit if you can't come up with the goods.

Cheers
Nem

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I think this depends on in which country you play. Different authorities all work in their own way..

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Its a very interesting situation.... Freak is totally right...

PRS do conduct random checks on DJ's to confirm material but its a very sticky situation. I personally have been visited by PRS at a venue but the difference was they just wanted to know what tracks I was playing. They didn't actually ask to see if they were paid for etc.

If you take Matt Darey as an example here... He recently gave all his vinyl away as a radio 1 competition. He has transferred all this tracks to his laptop and now DJ's from that. It would be very interesting to see what would happen should he be asked for evidence of owning the track now.

Judge Jules recently stated in an interview that he download tracks from the web illegally. He then changed the comment days later to say that he only downloaded tracks that he owned to save time on digging out the record.....

As for me, I have given tracks that I have produced out to DJ's in the past long before they came out on vinyl. This also happens to me, I have recently been given tracks from JOOF Records and a few small artists. I don't own the original and its not out on vinyl. It would be a difficult situation if asked to provide evidence on these other than getting a letter from the actual artist to state that they gave me it.

The law has to be more clearly defined on this issue I think before you can really expect to see people fined for the downloading. It certainly doesn't seem to be very clear right now as to how people stand with so many different situations arising.

Kuffdam