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"He's going to kill everybody". These are screenshots from the film, which we, sincerely, had already seen being broadcast live. If we needed to see what the situation was, we had already seen it once so why show it again in such empty context? |
| quote: | Originally posted by Subey
What version of earth do you live in where documentaries make money? Other than a couple of movies by Michael Moore documentaries by definition make no money |
I admit I'm quite skeptical to the thought that they didn't get anything out of this film, being distributed by HBO Cinemax and all that. You like it or not, even if the film didn't profit as much as I'd like to believe it didn't, the director and the producer managed to get a place in the spotlight. An average Brazilian had already seen it (even if it was difficult for us to believe), we already know he was a survivor of the Candelaria massacre and we had heard the rumours that the police killed the hijacker on his way to the hospital. We don't need to be simply reminded ad nauseum so it becomes natural to us.
Do you see the picture at the top? The hijacker has a darker skin, which shows his African ancestry (in opposition to the woman he's holding, whose European origin is more evident). Yes, we're dealing with the remaining problems of freedom. I'm not sure how the America dealt with it (even because we're two large nations with completely different backgrounds), but it's blatantly obvious that Rio de Janeiro did a good job segregating those who had been brought to Brazil against their will and were freed even though they couldn't make it for a living. The director also claims that he interviewed one of the hijacker's friend, who was a drug dealer. Once again, upper class trash seems to deny this reality as they can afford to have fancy security systems, and use all the drugs they want that directly sponsor this sort of thing.
Now, those who could make a change (e.g. something as little as organising campaigns), are just shooting films. "City of God" became a blockbuster. "Bus 174" seems to have become a superfluous documentary. Even if they needed this to have the attention, is it too damn hard to stop glazing at their own belly and do something for a change? They can have the attention of far more people than I, for instance, could.
| quote: | Originally posted by Porky
marcus,,... i thought the movie was based on a true story (the photographers) ? |
It is, and there was already a book about it, written by the photographer himself, as far as I remember. And the film does nothing other than turning a sad history, like I said, in a oscar nominee to entertain people here and abroad. In fact, this is something else that worries me.
I don't know how many of you have been here. I'm not going to be as arrogant to say you can't understand if you don't live in Brazil, but I fail to understand what good that film can do. If I were a foreigner, I'd have the image that Brazil is a savage place, full of criminals everywhere and with slams in pretty much every inhabitated square meter. That's all we show anyway (other than our beaches and the carnival from Rio). The film shows everything in a ludic way that makes that story, which is based on true facts, become almost as fantastic as fiction. Has the thought of "not using drugs" (at least those that come from here or other developing countries) crossed the mind of someone watching the video? Has the thought of visiting Brazil popped up? The money we get from tourism does help us as well. Most likely not. We Brazilians already know what our problems are, all we need is some public organisation because we're afraid of taking action as well. These people who shot the movies can do it. As for exporting this reality... this is making money out of others' misery, and that brings worse consequences than that. Tourists would be afraid to come even to our safest cities.
| quote: | Originally posted by Eric Siefer
Glad to see some intelligence in COR sometimes.
Not sure where you live right now, but I can understand where you're coming from. While I thought it was an awesome movie, sometimes I(and everyone) forget that these things are still going on right now. It's a tragedy that the writer never went back to help them out, or started some sort of fund. But this world is pretty shitty in some places. If there were enough money, people, and resources to help out every shitty scenario I see on a film based on a true story then the world would be a better place for it. But there isn't. It sucks that it seems to some that they're glorifying the situation by making a film about it and in the process also money off it, but thats how the world works. |
It does suck indeed, but I'd like to believe that, once they find their ankles bitten by this problem, they're going to do something more concrete.
| quote: | Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
And I'm still not convinced that Lira is angry at the movie, itself, so much as he is fearful of what outsiders view his country as. I actually found it quite interesting to see such horror and violence and poverty presented in such a sarcastically light-hearted (if that does it any jsutice) manner - not because I think that "everything's supposed to be fun in Rio", but because it exposes this twisted human edge so well that, in their world of violence and extreme poverty, the blending of such violatile elements had become a sort of madness to be brought to reality with - that people had become compliant with this way of life, as people must do, and that embracing it drowns out the sadness sometimes and makes you forget how illogical it is. |
It's a blending of both what you said and me being angry at the whole scenario, the film being included.
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