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rafale
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Registered: Sep 2003
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oh so meaning when i plug the midi outs of my "Normal" keyboard into my soundcard midi-ins, the "normal-ness" of the keyboard should disappear?? i.e. the keyboard will stop producing its normal sound and start sending midi DATA to the pc instead?


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Nick Mimas
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Yeah if the keyboard is set to send MIDI commands it should.


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So.. its actually better to have a full fledged "normal" keyboard with built in synths and all... which also has MIDI outputs. that way u have both a Keyboard, and a MIDI controller in ONE.

A MIDI controller will need to be plugged in to softynths to be utilised. Can a MIDI controller work with hardware synths?


just for the record.. a MIDI controller here means stuff like the Oxygen 8 which does not produce sounds when it stands alone.

A full fleged keyboard, or "normal" (as I put it) keyboard is like the Roland keyboards and what not which u can plug in to a power point and turn on, and play like a piano would.


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RIPassion
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I use a casio keyboard I got for 15$ at an estate sale... lol. A CTK-451, or Cock Tickling Keyboard - 451. Still sends midi data flawlessly

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Nick Mimas
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quote:
Originally posted by rafale
So.. its actually better to have a full fledged "normal" keyboard with built in synths and all... which also has MIDI outputs. that way u have both a Keyboard, and a MIDI controller in ONE.


Well when it comes to that it's a matter of preference. If you need something to play and something to use MIDI with then a "normal" keyboard will be good but if you just need to use MIDI then get something like an Oxygen8 or an Ozonic or whatever.

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A MIDI controller will need to be plugged in to softynths to be utilised. Can a MIDI controller work with hardware synths?


Yeah that's why you see keyboards stacked up on each other with thick cables coming out of them. They'll control anything that can receive and use MIDI data.


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quote:
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oh so meaning when i plug the midi outs of my "Normal" keyboard into my soundcard midi-ins, the "normal-ness" of the keyboard should disappear?? i.e. the keyboard will stop producing its normal sound and start sending midi DATA to the pc instead?


Your keyboard will NOT stop producing sound when you start hooking up MIDI cables to your computer.

Simply turn the volume on your keyboard to zero or unplug the audio cables.


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rafale
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but midi controllers like the Oxygen-8 won't have sound when i don't plug it into anything right?

like theres no soundboard or sound-generator built in or anything rite?

so for the 'normal' keyboards.. the sound which gets transmitted to the computer via the soundcard can either be:

a) adjusted via the synths ON the keyboard itself
b) adjusted via the softsynths on your PC
c) adjusted using BOTH the on board synths and the softsynths


am I getting warmer??

ehhe thanks all of you for all the info.


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So to sum it up...

a $50 casio keyboard with MIDI outs performs the same function as a KORG microcontrol or EDIROL or Oxygen etc...

then the only diff is that the latter few were MADE especially for that purpose so the knobs and all will be assignable ? whereas on the cheap casio it can't ?


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quote:
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So to sum it up...

a $50 casio keyboard with MIDI outs performs the same function as a KORG microcontrol or EDIROL or Oxygen etc...

then the only diff is that the latter few were MADE especially for that purpose so the knobs and all will be assignable ? whereas on the cheap casio it can't ?


You just hit the nail on the head there.


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If your after the cheapest way to send MIDI information to your sequencer then yeah, the 'Ol casio will do just that as long as it has MIDI out (but expect problems), but if your serious about your music then I would honastly invest in a good "up-to-date" MIDI keyboard, as they are made specificly for "up-to-date" software.


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if you're looking for an easier (but not necissarily cheaper) option, you can pick up a USB keyboard from M-Audio for around $100. I use mine as a midi-controller with a VST in Ableton and it works like a dream. You can also use your computer keyboard by default in Ableton if you don't want to drop the $100, but it's REALLY nice to have the keyboard.


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