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VERTiG0
cunning linguist.

Registered: Dec 2003
Location: no longer Cambridge, Ontario, Canada
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As has been said, you simply cannot do any wrong by purchaing a Honda of any sort.
Forget everything everybody else in this thread said about the Vibe Sorry guys, you're just wildly misinformed The Vibe and Matrix are the exact same car. They are both built at the same plant, NUMMI, in California. In fact, the Vibe is sold in Japan as the Toyota Voltz.
The thing with the Vibe is that having the domestic badge attached to it, you'll probably be able to get it cheaper than a comparable Matrix, simply because it doesn't say Toyota on it.
Looks between the two are subjective, the slight facelift on the Vibe makes it look a helluva lot better than it used to, but I still prefer the look of a Matrix XRS.
For the love of god don't buy a Volkswagen. You will regret it. I will go into this further if you'd like. I'll just say now that Consumer Reports' list of Most Reliable Vehicles 2004, the 3 most UNRELIABLE vehicles were the '04 Golf, '04 Jetta, and '04 Beetle.
I'm not sure how much money you've got to spend on a vehicle Chris, but if you're looking for something a bit more upscale and exclusive you may want to check out the Mercedes-Benz B-Class.
You said you'd be buying in the next 6 months, and it comes out this fall. The vehicle was recently introduced at the Geneva Auto Show, and looks to be very promising. Pricing is reportedly to be the same as the C-Coupe, so around $32k CDN.
Engine power figures for the Canadian market (the US doesn't get the B-Class) have not yet been announced, but they will be both 2.0L 4-cylinder engines, one naturally aspirated, one turbocharged. Speculation is that they'll be 150bhp and 193bhp, respectively. 6-spd manual transmission is standard, with an optional CVT (continuously variable transmission, aka. automatic with no real gears).
Typical awesome Benz interior and superb Benz safety features accompany this smart looking little machine.






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Apr-14-2005 22:43
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VERTiG0
cunning linguist.

Registered: Dec 2003
Location: no longer Cambridge, Ontario, Canada
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Apr-14-2005 22:55
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MarkT
Automatic Static

Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Toronto
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small, good on gas, good handling, high quality, looks nice...
Mazda3...hands down winner in that segment. A GT sedan, GFX package (17" wheels/tires, moonroof, etc). F leather, most cheap leather seats suck.
I'm almost positive you can get one for 25k TAXES INCLUDED and Mazda has decent financing rates right now.
Stay away from VW until the next model year when the redesign is out...VW themselves have admitted major quality issues in the last 3-4 years of their cars.
Honestly...no < 25k car, other than a Mazda3, would get my $$$. There's a ton of crap out there right now!
I'm either dropping 40k on a Subaru Legacy GT or Volve S40...or going cheap and picking up a Mazda3 myself so I can save and buy a place next year 
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Apr-14-2005 23:03
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