hell yeah, best mixer around IMO... it's basically got the effects of the djm 600 plus loads of extra stuff, filters like the a&h (admittedly not as good, but the filters on the xone mixers are unbeatable), sound quality somewhere in betwen the two (nearer the a&h end) and... it's all upgradable via usb, so you can get new effects when denon write the software for them, plus improvements to the processing algorithms etc. seriously recommend having a look at it
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Apr-18-2005 00:13
proghead75
tranceaddict in training
Registered: Feb 2005
Location: ak
I use a Denon dn-x300. Although quite featureless, i think it's a solid mixer. When I started beatmatching, I wanted a good mixer without all the knobs and dials to confuse me. When I decide I got my beatchmatching up to grade, then I would upgrade to a more versitle mixer. I guess I'm crawling before I walk (kinda)
Originally posted by Tenshi
here in austria it's quite the opposite! the ecler smac 40 costs 500 euros brand new and a djm500/600 is 630/800 new!
for that price, which one would you choose mate?
Hmmm, I don't know because I've only had a chance to mix on an Ecler Nuo 5 which is currently eclers flagship mixer so I'd guess that it would be better in terms of output quality to there lower priced model (smac 40)
I still think you should put the effort into getting an Allen & Heath
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Originally posted by Stu Cox
and... it's all upgradable via usb, so you can get new effects when denon write the software for them, plus improvements to the processing algorithms etc. seriously recommend having a look at it
Heard about this before. Sounds interesting and if it all works smoothly its a nice feature if you ask me!
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Apr-18-2005 10:15
Zack Roth
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: .....
I started out with a Denon dx400 19 inch mixer which I was extremely happy about. i think I paid abotu $329 for it. There's also the step up...The 800 which is also solid.
But I think you could pick up an Allen & Heath xone 62 off ebay for a similar price as the djm 500/600... thats if your looking for a mixer with amazing sound quality. I personally think the Ecler mixers are priced to high as the output quality lacks a bit. Comparing Pioneer and Ecler I would go for the pio because there both on the same level in terms of output quality (except Ecler's mixers being priced much higher)
you do know you cant hear the eq changes in the cue and monitoring positions though right.... you cant hear you change the EQ in your headphones? Thats a major dropdown for me. I was going to get that mixer but then i decided on the DNX which i am absolutely happy with. The sound quality of that mixer is great..but will you even hear that quality in your bedroom in the little 14x14 room lets say? You wont hear that great of a difference unless youve got quite the space adn quite the equipment of showing the mixers ful potential in sound.
Apr-18-2005 16:56
Fresh
Whose Discotek Is This?
Registered: Apr 2002
Location: UK
quote:
Originally posted by jupiterone
you do know you cant hear the eq changes in the cue and monitoring positions though right.... you cant hear you change the EQ in your headphones? Thats a major dropdown for me. I was going to get that mixer but then i decided on the DNX which i am absolutely happy with. The sound quality of that mixer is great..but will you even hear that quality in your bedroom in the little 14x14 room lets say? You wont hear that great of a difference unless youve got quite the space adn quite the equipment of showing the mixers ful potential in sound.
The EQ monitoring issue is a negative point I must admit... the 92 has a post eq function on the monitoring system. Even when I used the 62 I just used to turn the channel up a bit instead of an eq... Soon got used to it with no problems. Actually I think I prefered it because you could monitor your beatmatching through the headphones (hearing both tunes playing at the same level) than through the system if your incoming tune was at a low level on the fader, gain, EQ's etc. while you were bringing it into the mix.
In terms of hearing the sound quality I think thats a pretty silly statement. Speakers and systems are a different ball game. Firstly why would you spend all your money on a quality mixer without taking your current home speaker system into account? Either way the Allen & Heath will sound better on budget speakers or a big system compared to some other mixers. Example, when I got my a&h mixer I could immediately hear a clearer, crisper signal coming through my fairly cheap mission loudspeakers. The pioneer I had before sounded quite muddy compared to the xone, aswell as the ecler nuo 5 which ive also had running through the same speakers. No doubt the allen & heath does sound more amazing through a bigger louder system, but doesnt electronic music in general sound better at louder levels?
I wish I had the chance to mix on a denon mixer, am genuinely interested in hearing the output quality!
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Apr-18-2005 19:34
jupiterone
housin' guide
Registered: Dec 2004
Location: los angeles
You are right about the speakers m8 but generally most people cant hear the full beauty a mixer has to offer because they are confined in such a small space like their bedroom. I have shitty speakers. Honeslty HORRIBLE. But it still soudns great with the DNX. I need more cash. i jsut spent 10 grand on production stuff so im a bit behind lmao.
ive put my hand on allen & heath and i am never switching again
Apr-19-2005 01:27
jupiterone
housin' guide
Registered: Dec 2004
Location: los angeles
Id take the DNX over the 62. Hands down.
Apr-19-2005 01:41
Tenshi
likes music
Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Mödling, Austria
quote:
Originally posted by j@y
dont waste your time and money
go for an allen & heath xone 92 or 62
it has all you want...best sounding mixer
great feeling
legendary a&h filters....
ive put my hand on allen & heath and i am never switching again
i think you didn't see that i don't wanna spend much over 650€
Apr-19-2005 08:00
Laz-oh
tranceaddict
Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Sydney
for the money you've got, get a dnx-1500. ive got one and couldnt be happier. if you've got the money, sure get an A&H:92 but since you dont then get the dnx-1500